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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The reason there was a special prosecutor in the Valerie Plame case was that Scooter Libby lied to the FBI. He told them that he learned of her identity from Tim Russert, Russert being a journalist, Libby figured Russert would never testify, but he did.

    FITZGERALD: The focus of the interview was what it that he had known about Wilson's wife, Valerie Wilson, what he knew about Ms. Wilson, what he said to people, why he said it, and how he learned it.

    And to be frank, Mr. Libby gave the FBI a compelling story.

    What he told the FBI is that essentially he was at the end of a long chain of phone calls. He spoke to reporter Tim Russert, and during the conversation Mr. Russert told him that, "Hey, do you know that all the reporters know that Mr. Wilson's wife works at the CIA?"

    And he told the FBI that he learned that information as if it were new, and it struck him. So he took this information from Mr. Russert and later on he passed it on to other reporters, including reporter Matthew Cooper of Time magazine, reporter Judith Miller of the New York Times.

    Transcript of Special Counsel Fitzgerald's Press Conference
    Scooter Libby paid for his crimes.

    Are you giving the Obama team a pass on this just because they work for Obama?

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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    If that was true and they knew Plame's status was covert, then they knew something that even Bill Harlow, the CIA public information officer didn't know. Because he was Robert Novak's 3rd source for his story that confirmed Plame's identity. He told Novak she worked at a desk in Langley and had no idea her classification was covert.

    Unfortunately, that story of yours is missing what so many stories from back then were... EVIDENCE
    Um, the VP knew she was CIA, the memo Armitage read was secret, there was no reason for Libby, Rove, Armitage and Fleischer to be spreading the fact that she was CIA to multiple reporters within a 2 week period other than as a coordinated program to smear her. The motivation was totally evident......and this is the conclusion Fitzgerald came to, along with any other sentient being.

    Oh...and this:

    Harlow, the former CIA spokesman, said in an interview yesterday that he testified last year before a grand jury about conversations he had with Novak at least three days before the column was published. He said he warned Novak, in the strongest terms he was permitted to use without revealing classified information, that Wilsonís wife had not authorized the mission and that if he did write about it, her name should not be revealed.
    Harlow said that after Novakís call, he checked Plameís status and confirmed that she was an undercover operative. He said he called Novak back to repeat that the story Novak had related to him was wrong and that Plameís name should not be used.

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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Scooter Libby paid for his crimes.

    Are you giving the Obama team a pass on this just because they work for Obama?
    Scooter Libby was never charged with the crime of leaking Valerie Plame's identity, he was convicted of lying and obstruction of justice(a serious crime). He was sentenced to 30 months in prison, but his sentence was commuted by President Bush so he never spent a day behind bars.

    I expect President Obama to handle the situation in an appropriate manner whatever that might be.


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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Scooter Libby was never charged with the crime of leaking Valerie Plame's identity, he was convicted of lying and obstruction of justice(a serious crime). He was sentenced to 30 months in prison, but his sentence was commuted by President Bush so he never spent a day behind bars.

    I expect President Obama to handle the situation in an appropriate manner whatever that might be.
    Correct, he was never charged. He did pay a $250,000 fine and 2-year probation. So yes, he paid for the other crimes.

    You don't have an opinion on what Obama should do?

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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Correct, he was never charged. He did pay a $250,000 fine and 2-year probation. So yes, he paid for the other crimes.

    You don't have an opinion on what Obama should do?
    Nope, I sure don't, that not my pay grade.


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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Nope, I sure don't, that not my pay grade.
    Interesting. Does this mean you don't have any opinions anymore on what any politician should or shouldn't do or be doing? Or just "Trust in Obama"?

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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Scooter Libby was never charged with the crime of leaking Valerie Plame's identity, he was convicted of lying and obstruction of justice(a serious crime). He was sentenced to 30 months in prison, but his sentence was commuted by President Bush so he never spent a day behind bars.

    I expect President Obama to handle the situation in an appropriate manner whatever that might be.
    Why would you expect that? Still holding to the dream that Obama was qualified to be President? He remains and will always be a Community Agitator with no leadership skills.

    Interesting isn't it that Plame sued Libby and Cheney, lost the case, lost the appeal, and then with a Democrat Congress got nowhere yet she still remains a liberal hero to you and everyone else is guilty in spite of the courts disagreeing

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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Interesting. Does this mean you don't have any opinions anymore on what any politician should or shouldn't do or be doing? Or just "Trust in Obama"?
    I trust Obama to handle the situation as he sees fit. Do you think it was appropriate for President Bush to commute Libby's sentence of a very serious crime of obstruction of justice?


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    Re: White House mistakenly identifies CIA chief in Afghanistan

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I trust Obama to handle the situation as he sees fit. Do you think it was appropriate for President Bush to commute Libby's sentence of a very serious crime of obstruction of justice?
    I don't believe anyone who is sentenced by a jury should have sentences commuted, period. But that's a subject for a different thread.

    So you trust Obama. That's all you needed to say.

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