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    China and Russia Best Frenemies

    http://www.economist.com/news/leader...best-frenemies

    It seems that the American public really doesn't get what's happening here, nor do the Western Europeans.

    Charles Krauthammer: With a $400-billion gas deal, China and Russia build an anti-Western superpower | National Post

    As mentioned in an earlier thread Russia and China are working together to build a Canal/Rail system across Nicaragua to compete with Panama and which will carry larger much container vessels.

    How would George Kennan respond to Nicaragua

    And while all this is going on the US President cannot even approve the Keystone Pipeline, secure water or energy supplies, or pay attention to what is going on in the world. It's all small-time Chicago politics and the country is paying the price for their remarkable shortsightedness.

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    Re: China and Russia Best Frenemies

    Are they on the Framily plan?
    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
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    Re: China and Russia Best Frenemies

    The frenemy of my frenemy is my enefriend?
    Either I'm right or you're wrong.

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    Re: China and Russia Best Frenemies

    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    The frenemy of my frenemy is my enefriend?
    I can see why the Russians and Chinese remain so confident.

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    Re: China and Russia Best Frenemies

    They are also conducting their trade without using the USD, they will be using their own currencies.

    Most here will not understand the significance of that, But hey they know who is winning the whichever stupid NBA game that is on.

    Got gold?

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    Re: China and Russia Best Frenemies

    Russia didn't have much of a choice. China has the only standing army (7,054,000) that could invade Russia (3,250,000) and prevail (USA = 2,291,910). China's population is growing exponentially. China's industrial base is growing and expanding at a rate that China's infrastructure and energy resources cannot keep up. It was just a matter of time, before China moved to take over the Siberian oil and gas fields, so Russia had two choices: sell China what they needed, or have China take it from them.
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    Re: China and Russia Best Frenemies

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Russia didn't have much of a choice. China has the only standing army (7,054,000) that could invade Russia (3,250,000) and prevail (USA = 2,291,910). China's population is growing exponentially. China's industrial base is growing and expanding at a rate that China's infrastructure and energy resources cannot keep up. It was just a matter of time, before China moved to take over the Siberian oil and gas fields, so Russia had two choices: sell China what they needed, or have China take it from them.
    Population growth rate - Country Comparison

    CHinas growth rate is .48
    when their population starts dwindle it will collapse quickly

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    Re: China and Russia Best Frenemies

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Russia didn't have much of a choice. China has the only standing army (7,054,000) that could invade Russia (3,250,000) and prevail (USA = 2,291,910). China's population is growing exponentially. China's industrial base is growing and expanding at a rate that China's infrastructure and energy resources cannot keep up. It was just a matter of time, before China moved to take over the Siberian oil and gas fields, so Russia had two choices: sell China what they needed, or have China take it from them.
    This is absolutely ludicrous.

    Chinas population will collapse in the following decades and they both have nuclear weapons, how in the name of god is China going to "take it from them".

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    Re: China and Russia Best Frenemies

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    They are also conducting their trade without using the USD, they will be using their own currencies.

    Most here will not understand the significance of that, But hey they know who is winning the whichever stupid NBA game that is on.

    Got gold?
    It's also like $80 billion a year. Which in terms of actual trade is a rounding error. Russia and China have to do the rest of their hydrocarbon deals with other nations in USD.
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    Re: China and Russia Best Frenemies

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    It's also like $80 billion a year. Which in terms of actual trade is a rounding error. Russia and China have to do the rest of their hydrocarbon deals with other nations in USD.
    Not really China is making all kinds of deal world wide, Not using the USD. which is weird because they have 3 trillion in reserves of USD.

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