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    Re: China and Russia Best Frenemies

    Is that the best you got?

    Containment and isolation are often the same thing or two sides of the same coin when it comes to geopolitics.
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    Re: China and Russia Best Frenemies

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Thanks for aknowledging the fact that our government also ignored, like a pompus prick, treaties signed by a previous government.
    If you noticed in the treaties, there's nothing in it that actually makes the US do anything.

    But I can't expect you to actually understand the treaty.
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    Re: China and Russia Best Frenemies

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Is that the best you got?
    Maybe you aren't getting the hint, but I don't think anything you have said is even worth the effort I have given so far. That is how badly your position is divorced from reality.
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    Re: China and Russia Best Frenemies

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    If you noticed in the treaties, there's nothing in it that actually makes the US do anything.

    But I can't expect you to actually understand the treaty.
    It's a joint defense treaty. The very nature obligates the United States to do something.
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    Re: China and Russia Best Frenemies

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Russia didn't have much of a choice. China has the only standing army (7,054,000) that could invade Russia (3,250,000) and prevail (USA = 2,291,910). China's population is growing exponentially. China's industrial base is growing and expanding at a rate that China's infrastructure and energy resources cannot keep up. It was just a matter of time, before China moved to take over the Siberian oil and gas fields, so Russia had two choices: sell China what they needed, or have China take it from them.


    Absolute, unadulerated hogwash, but always refreshing to hear the cro-Magnon opinion.

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    Re: China and Russia Best Frenemies

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Absolute, unadulerated hogwash, but always refreshing to hear the cro-Magnon opinion.
    You never fail to give me a chuckle. Thank you.

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    Re: China and Russia Best Frenemies

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Absolute, unadulerated hogwash, but always refreshing to hear the cro-Magnon opinion.
    Variations on this theme are all the left seem to have these days. They have run out of ways to defend the indefensible with any reason, logic, or clarity of thought so have resorted to the Kobiesque one liners which they falsely hope might be a substitute for genuine debate.

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    Re: China and Russia Best Frenemies

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Maybe you aren't getting the hint, but I don't think anything you have said is even worth the effort I have given so far. That is how badly your position is divorced from reality.
    Or more likely you're entrenched in your position but you aren't able to counter anything I said hence why you aren't able to even mount a single rebuttal whatsoever.

    I don't think you have a grasp at all of the Cold War and how containment and isolation worked together. The West worked with the Soviets when we had to, but that did not mean we did not move to contain and isolate them when we wanted to.

    You have to be pretty blind not to see South East Asia taking more and more steps towards containing China and limiting her influence.
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    Re: China and Russia Best Frenemies

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's a joint defense treaty. The very nature obligates the United States to do something.
    It's also a treaty that doesn't require the US to actually do anything under any written mechanism. Again, I don't expect you to be able to understand what the treaty actually says and calls for.
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    Re: China and Russia Best Frenemies

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Or more likely you're entrenched in your position but you aren't able to counter anything I said hence why you aren't able to even mount a single rebuttal whatsoever.
    It is not a question of ability, but one of interest.
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