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    re: Police call deadly Santa Barbara shooting spree 'premeditated mass murder'[W220]

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    What the hell does that mean?

    Are you saying the police should find people to kill by what they posted in a YouTube video. Before they act out their threat?
    He doesn't seem to be saying that, rather he seems to be saying that with regards to mental health issues with individuals that are a potential threat, the police often find out and then do nothing, then a rampage such as this occurs, when if something had been done earlier the rampage may not have occurred.
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    re: Police call deadly Santa Barbara shooting spree 'premeditated mass murder'[W220]

    I don't know the system in California but I am certain you cannot simply call the police and say "my son, brother, father is acting weird and I am concerned" and expect the police to lock the person up. I'm fairly certain a judge will have to be involved. The judge will review evidence to determine if the person is a danger to himself or others and make a determination.

    It would be most interesting to know the history behind the shooter. Was he in counseling, had he been in counseling? What medications was he taking, if any? And if he had previously taken medications, what were they and when did he stop taking them?










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    re: Police call deadly Santa Barbara shooting spree 'premeditated mass murder'[W220]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yup, looks like his family figured out something was wrong, asked for help, and nothing was done.


    Mental health issues need to be addressed better in this country.
    Asked for help...but did nothing it seems. They called the police, but what are the police supposed to do? They can look into the reports and see if anything is credible, but they can't just arrest people without sufficient proof or evidence.

    The father should have taken the kid to see a doctor if he was so concerned. But it seems that all he did was say "this seems dangerous, better call the police", and then when the police couldn't do anything, did nothing themselves.
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    Re: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/24/at-least-3-dead-in-shootings-in-santa-barbar

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    It is hard to believe, IN THIS DAY AND AGE, that this goofy bastard couldn't find himself a piece of whatever.


    Yeah... TBH, he must have given off some serious creep-vibes all the time, to manage to NOT get laid in these modern times in college. Either that or his sights were set on Malibu Barbie and nothing less would do.


    Question in my mind... was he really mentally ill, or just a selfish rotten bastard who thought killing a bunch of random people was an equitable revenge for not being able to get Malibu Barbie drunk and high enough to hop in the sack?

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    re: Police call deadly Santa Barbara shooting spree 'premeditated mass murder'[W220]

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yup, looks like his family figured out something was wrong, asked for help, and nothing was done.


    Mental health issues need to be addressed better in this country.
    Seriously?

    You are going to blame the system and not just the parents?

    When something is wrong with your kids, you keep pushing until something is done.

    My initial impression is that he was a spoiled little rich boy who probably had minimal parental discipline.

    Am I missing something in your comments?
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    re: Police call deadly Santa Barbara shooting spree 'premeditated mass murder'[W220]

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    Now it's confirmed that Peter Rodger, who was an assistant director on "The Hunger Games" film series, is the father of the deranged rampage killer who drove a black BMW during the shooting. According to AP news, the shooter's father had called police several weeks ago before the shooting rampage. The police did interview the shooter and let this murderous rampage proceed, apparently:


    Attorney: son suspected in shooting rampage



    Anybody watching the Youtube video knows that this psychopath is a pending disaster waiting to happen. Why does police always failed the public?
    The police did not fail us. They aren't magical beasts keeping us safe from every threat. They are constrained and restricted in the actions they can take. That's it.

    It's stupid to call the police in this case and imagine that it would all be taken care of. The father could have tried other things once the police could do nothing...you know, do a bit of parenting. Calling the cops on your kid is not enough.
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    re: Police call deadly Santa Barbara shooting spree 'premeditated mass murder'[W220]

    Quote Originally Posted by dolphinocean View Post
    Another mass killing by a mentally deranged young man in a drive by shooting at Santa Barbara:

    Gunman, six others killed in drive-by shooting, Santa Barbara police say | Fox News



    This psychopathic guy posted a creepy Youtube video complaining about being still a virgin at 22 yr old and hating all the blonde beautiful women he couldn't get and all sexually active men who had all the women they want for sex. For that he went on a killing rampage the next day? What's going on mentally with the young men of American society?

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    re: Police call deadly Santa Barbara shooting spree 'premeditated mass murder'[W220]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The police did not fail us. They aren't magical beasts keeping us safe from every threat. They are constrained and restricted in the actions they can take. That's it.

    It's stupid to call the police in this case and imagine that it would all be taken care of. The father could have tried other things once the police could do nothing...you know, do a bit of parenting. Calling the cops on your kid is not enough.
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    re: Police call deadly Santa Barbara shooting spree 'premeditated mass murder'[W220]

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    re: Police call deadly Santa Barbara shooting spree 'premeditated mass murder'[W220]

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Seriously?

    You are going to blame the system and not just the parents?

    When something is wrong with your kids, you keep pushing until something is done.

    My initial impression is that he was a spoiled little rich boy who probably had minimal parental discipline.

    Am I missing something in your comments?

    Probably, yeah. I suppose that's my fault, as communication is sender-dependent.


    I'm not saying that the po-po should have locked him up on suspicion.

    I'm saying the way we do mental health issues is messed up from the get go. Sounds like this guy was in bad need of counseling and not just recently... probably should have been evident to someone close to him five years ago. A good shrink could maybe have realized he was a potential danger and possibly had some kind of action taken.

    Or maybe not. It isn't a perfect world and **** happens.

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