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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    If crying about fox and a false comparison to 9/11 truthers are all youve got, well-you know how its going to turn out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    you ignored my entire post. i will distill it.

    many embassy attacks have occurred during the past few decades :

    Attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    fox has devoted two years of saturation coverage to only one of them. this is because they are using it as a political tool. your side is coming off as conspiracy theorists to those of us who don't watch fox, and it will not help you win an election. i assume it has become more about Hillary Clinton than Obama now, as fox's new mission is probably to sink her candidacy. i really don't care. however, your use of an embassy tragedy will not win you my vote. if you'd like to win my vote, push an end to interventionism and the closing of embassies in hostile regions. also, i'd like to see our infrastructure rebuilt and expanded, and we should be getting off of oil so that we would have to give many fewer ****s about that part of the world. run a candidate who supports that, and i'll consider him or her for a vote. run eight million swiftboat commercials about Benghazi, and i'm not going to come anywhere near your candidate.

    on a related note, the strategy of conspiracy theorists is to tie up their opponents in increasing intricacies to mask the fact that the theory itself is usually bull****. they can't prove that Bush shot missiles at the twin towers, so they spend eons debating about one structural point in the tower, or about WTC7. then you post a pic of WTC7 which shows the damage that led to the collapse, and they just ignore it and move on to something else. that's what you guys do with Benghazi. i usually avoid CT threads like the plague, but apparently fox must have returned to saturation coverage because there have been a ****load of threads recently. i just couldn't take it anymore. mea culpa.

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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Try and guess what chance a snowball has in hell. That's the chance of Conservatives letting go of Benghazi.
    They will once a Republican's in the White House. Truth is nice, but if you can't use it as a political weapon it's useless in Washington.


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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    you guys act just like 9/11 truthers, and that's how non-fox America looks at you. you're virtually indistinguishable from them, other than you have an entire network pushing the story.

    yes, i care that people died. this is why i would pull all of our troops out of that entire region, and i would close all of the embassies there. it's a hostile part of the world, and our own house is falling apart. get them the **** out of there.

    fox did not spend two years worth of news cycles on any of these :



    this is absolutely political. the right thinks they have some kind of gotcha just like the dems do every time there's a shooting. it's annoying at best and disgusting at worst.

    here's my advice : give up on this one. it isn't watergate, and you're being fed a line of bull**** by a fake news network that is designed to feed you propaganda. the rest of the country is not going to support kicking the president out of office over this any more than it will support putting Bush on trial.

    here's what you need to do : run a candidate in 2016 who isn't a bat**** loony far right moron. choose one who is better than the democrat, run him or her, and actually try to sell your ideas to the American people. as it stands, your side has gone absolutely insane during the Obama years, and EVERYTHING you've done has been a shot fired in some hyperpartisan war with him. ****, i thought the dems were bad under Bush, but this **** is absolutely insane. the only thing you guys haven't done that they did is to make some ****ty snuff film about him. you don't like the president. fine; i'm not a huge fan either. by the time Bush was out, i was so sick of him that anything else looked good. however, i didn't go online trumpeting every embassy attack that happened on his watch, because that would have been stupid. instead, i talked about his policies, what i didn't like about them, and solutions that i support. you know, like debating.

    you guys really are Benghazi truthers. you need to know that a lot of us look at you that way, and feel that this **** should be in CT. correct course, and make your platform look better than the other side. that's how you win; not this bull****.
    It really doesn't matter at all how a lot of you look at anyone. And it would be a very bad idea to close our embassies in tough places. The Americans who serve there are proud to do it and their work has great value.
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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    They will once a Republican's in the White House. Truth is nice, but if you can't use it as a political weapon it's useless in Washington.
    And with how they alienate the Latinos, gays, Lesbians, etc. You think they'll muster the popularity to get elected any time soon? Ha, classic.
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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I'll weigh in.

    If the time stamps are correct then this memo was sent out before the fighting was done. In fact it would have been sent out before Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed by mortar fire. It was certainly sent well before the intelligence reports that the administration cites as their basis for the Rice briefing were received by the administration.

    What does this indicate?

    Well, at a minimum it indicates that the administration lied about how it came up with the Youtube scenario. That's bad. But what's worse is the following:
    1. The administration was aware of the video well before the events in Benghazi took place and had some indication that it was inflammatory yet did nothing about it, unless;
    2. They had already planned to use the video as an excuse in case something happened.

    If the latter is true then they KNEW that the situation on the ground was dangerous and remained unprepared to deal with potential violence.

    All that is bad but there is another possibility.

    What if they knew that an attack was going to take place? What if the video was already hand picked as justification for an attack that they knew was coming? You've got the ambassador in a temporary compound which is guarded by locals in an area where it's well known that hostile parties are present and no reason for his presence has been given. You've got reports that Stevens himself declined an offer for additional security. You've got absolutely nobody being prosecuted for the attack. You've got the FBI held back from an investigation until 22 days after the attack and you've got continued stonewalling by the administration every step along the way.

    There can be no doubt that there is a massive coverup surrounding this incident. The question we need to have answered is "WHY?"
    Lots of possibilities-as another example in the rubble of the compound, American media (there for weeks before our FBI, who where delayed in part because Hillary ignored the intelligence they provided during and just after the attack) found a letter dated on the day of the attack where Stevens asked for more security-but he had been denied before and perhaps didn't want to rock the boat in an election season.

    But in addition to WHY?, its also WHO? WHO PUSHED THE VIDEO? WHO DECLINED RESCUE OPS? These are the things we are going to find out.

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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    And with how they alienate the Latinos, gays, Lesbians, etc. You think they'll muster the popularity to get elected any time soon? Ha, classic.
    They will. People will get sick of Obama the way they were sick of Bush, Clinton and most other Presidents since Truman. Since then, the party of a 2 term President has only managed to hang on to the White House once. After 8 years of Eisenhower, Kennedy won in 1960. After 8 years, Nixon won in '68. Then Carter in '76. Only Bush I held the WH for his party after a two-term President left. After Clinton, Bush II and then Obama.

    In 2017, the President will be a Republican. The odds are very much in their favor.


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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    But the Benghazi issue isn't about the attack.

    Its about a Administration that chose to lie not only to the American people but also the Families of those who lost their lives.

    Obama, Hilary and the DEMOCRATS Politicized it the instant they chose to manufacture a false narrative about a video because it was too Politically risky to be honest.

    I find your disgust with the Republicans a bit hypocritical.
    Indeed-never mind how the parents of our dead Americans were lied to. This video is heart breaking-listen to her story.


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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What's odd about all this is that there are dozens of anti Muslim videos on Youtube and elsewhere, as well as many websites. How could the White House think that one video could cause this problem when there are so many out there? But it seems people bought their excuse anyway.
    Indeed, and that particular video was out for some time, over 6 months IIRC.

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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Lots of possibilities-as another example in the rubble of the compound, American media (there for weeks before our FBI, who where delayed in part because Hillary ignored the intelligence they provided during and just after the attack) found a letter dated on the day of the attack where Stevens asked for more security-but he had been denied before and perhaps didn't want to rock the boat in an election season.

    But in addition to WHY?, its also WHO? WHO PUSHED THE VIDEO? WHO DECLINED RESCUE OPS? These are the things we are going to find out.
    You're going to be very disappointed when it turns out that it was a secret CIA thing and you can't hit Democrats over the head with it. Very disappointed indeed.


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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    You're going to be very disappointed when it turns out that it was a secret CIA thing and you can't hit Democrats over the head with it. Very disappointed indeed.
    Even if it was, what part of being a "secret CIA thing" supercedes responsibility to those dead men? Only 2 of the 4 had possible CIA ties.
    And-even if it was...all the WH has to do is give testimony behind closed doors to this select committee, who will find it justified-but I dont think thats what happened.

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