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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    That's a pretty weak conspiracy.
    Of course it is but enough of their followers bought into it to get past the election.

    We must keep in mind, as does Obama and all Democrat leaders, that their followers are not all that curious, or bright. They are always very receptive to whatever their leaders claim.

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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If any of them believed it was about a video then they are thicker than two whale sandwiches. That line was for the believers, their media enablers, and strictly American consumption. Obama, Clinton, Rice et al, could never have believed this for a moment.
    Except that things like vandalism against the Quran, even a cartoon of Muhammed, has sparked demonstrations in the past. The idea that Innocence of Muslims caused the attack was so far within the realms of credibility as to be ridiculous.

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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Right, because the Muslim world never starts riots over videos, cartoons or any insult to their precious Mohammed. Never you mind that the all over the Muslim world there were riots over the video AT THAT TIME.
    Again, there have been dozens of videos on Youtube, and still are, critical of Islam. There are also dozens of websites.

    Why would The Religion of the Perpetually Offended make such a big fuss over this one very amateur video?

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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Again, there have been dozens of videos on Youtube, and still are, critical of Islam. There are also dozens of websites.

    Why would The Religion of the Perpetually Offended make such a big fuss over this one very amateur video?
    Why would they riot over somebody drawing a picture of Muhammed? I don't know, there are a lot of crazy people in the world.

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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Except that things like vandalism against the Quran, even a cartoon of Muhammed, has sparked demonstrations in the past. The idea that Innocence of Muslims caused the attack was so far within the realms of credibility as to be ridiculous.
    Oh yes, they have, which is why it is so easy to blame it on this sort of thing again.

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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Why would they riot over somebody drawing a picture of Muhammed? I don't know, there are a lot of crazy people in the world.
    Yes, there are but there was no evidence whatsoever that Benghazi was caused by a video. Instead all the evidence pointed to a well coordinated attack.

    As soon as the news broke on September 12 there were many here, including myself, who said there is no way this was the result of a video. Certainly the foreign press was less likely to believe this video silliness and the Libyan President ridiculed the idea. Yet, over 18 months later, this video idea still has some traction. Some people are just willing to believe what politicians tell them, despite their reputation, and it seem to have often been that way.

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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If any of them believed it was about a video then they are thicker than two whale sandwiches. That line was for the believers, their media enablers, and strictly American consumption. Obama, Clinton, Rice et al, could never have believed this for a moment.
    Have you read this, Grant?

    David Ignatius: Benghazi intelligence revealed - The Washington Post


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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Again, there have been dozens of videos on Youtube, and still are, critical of Islam.
    Sure, and there are thousands of cartoons making fun of Islam - only the ones in Denmark got the attention of the Muslim world for.... what? 6 months?

    Why would The Religion of the Perpetually Offended make such a big fuss over this one very amateur video
    Your understanding and correlation of "very amateur video", popularity, viral capability, and what is considered amateur is weak AT BEST.

    1. Half the horror movies today are filmed at a fraction of the cost of most Hollywood movies (some for $60,000). They get the attention of millions around the world. How are they made? Handheld cameras, nausea inducing editing and unknown actors. Profit? 1/4 of a billion dollars for some.

    2. Today, a 7 second video made by kids in Australia can reach North America and get 30 million views in about 2 days. That's kind of the thing about globalization and overpopulation. Salman Rushdi's book took years to write and made its way across the Atlantic in months, a video made in 20 mins insulting Mohammed can do it in seconds.

    3. Religions get offended over whatever they want to get offended about. Happy holidays, Christ in piss, Buddha sucking off Vishnu - whatever.

    The point of all this is that your argument that there is no way the administration could have thought the video was the cause is beyond ridiculous. Of course they could have. Hell, it wouldn't be the first time Islam gets its panties in a wad over media depicting Mohammed badly. The demand by the white house to take down the video? Perfectly plausible if the narrative is that there was an initial confusion over the cause of the riots. Highly implausible if the narrative is some big giant conspiracy
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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Sure, and there are thousands of cartoons making fun of Islam - only the ones in Denmark got the attention of the Muslim world for.... what? 6 months?



    Your understanding and correlation of "very amateur video", popularity, viral capability, and what is considered amateur is weak AT BEST.

    1. Half the horror movies today are filmed at a fraction of the cost of most Hollywood movies (some for $60,000). They get the attention of millions around the world. How are they made? Handheld cameras, nausea inducing editing and unknown actors. Profit? 1/4 of a billion dollars for some.

    2. Today, a 7 second video made by kids in Australia can reach North America and get 30 million views in about 2 days. That's kind of the thing about globalization and overpopulation. Salman Rushdi's book took years to write and made its way across the Atlantic in months, a video made in 20 mins insulting Mohammed can do it in seconds.

    3. Religions get offended over whatever they want to get offended about. Happy holidays, Christ in piss, Buddha sucking off Vishnu - whatever.

    The point of all this is that your argument that there is no way the administration could have thought the video was the cause is beyond ridiculous. Of course they could have. Hell, it wouldn't be the first time Islam gets its panties in a wad over media depicting Mohammed badly. The demand by the white house to take down the video? Perfectly plausible if the narrative is that there was an initial confusion over the cause of the riots. Highly implausible if the narrative is some big giant conspiracy
    No, they knew it wasn't over a video.

    The State Department was communicating with the Lybian Government the night of the attack.

    Not telling them it was a Video but telling them that it was a terrorist attack and it was a group loyal to Al Qaeda who was responsible.

    At the same time Hillary Clinton put out a press release before the attack was over blaming the video.

    You wamt me to believe that our State Department knew exactly who was responsible almost immediately but Clinton and Obama thought it was over a video ?

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    Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No, they knew it wasn't over a video.

    The State Department was communicating with the Lybian Government the night of the attack.

    Not telling them it was a Video but telling them that it was a terrorist attack and it was a group loyal to Al Qaeda who was responsible.

    At the same time Hillary Clinton put out a press release before the attack was over blaming the video.

    You wamt me to believe that our State Department knew exactly who was responsible almost immediately but Clinton and Obama thought it was over a video ?
    Lol, now you're asking us to believe a country just recently removed from the state sponsor of terrorism list, with an Islamist-backed leader - instead of a far more plausible possibility like the Muslim world going nuts over a video making fun of their prophet. Your partisanship is showing. If the state department chose to ignore the words of the Islamist backed government in Libya, I don't blame them.
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