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White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.[W:324]

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Fearandloathing said:
Distant and aloof is what they are now saying.

And this is new. when he was running and in his early days was eloquent and seemed compassionate. His reaction to the first school shooting was impressive, the Gabby Gifford case, less so and the beginning of a turn around.

I believe it is classic ineptitude and inexperience. Obama is a very, very arrogant man. He does not easily accept input and criticism is beneath contempt. I believe he saw the presidency as a his domain, was not prepared to be questioned by opponents and the media.

And, after the disasters of "if you like your plan..", Benghazi, Syria, IRS, VA, Israels 1967 borders and now Ukraine, he's figured out that anything he says will be examined for fact, and so says little.

I also think his ability to fake compassion for others has waned, he simply does not have the interest nor energy to maintain the facade. And, he doesn't care. He never did, really, but it was all about him and now that he has nothing to run for, he simply doesn't want to anymore
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This guy had everything handed to him his entire life. He expected the Presidency to be a cakewalk. Now he's getting a dose of reality and seeing that speeches aren't enough. Of course he might think others are to blame, but at some point you would hope he'd figure out that being President means executive action, not excuses.
 
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US Conservative said:
This guy had everything handed to him his entire life. He expected the Presidency to be a cakewalk. Now he's getting a dose of reality and seeing that speeches aren't enough. Of course he might think others are to blame, but at some point you would hope he'd figure out that being President means executive action, not excuses.
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Great line...

I disagree that he should figure it out.

Even a candidate at the local level in Canadian 'grass roots' politics gets isolated......I suspect when the fate of the "free world" is at stake and you live in a palace, things get pretty filtered.

he came out of the gate, a savagely good campaigner, a phenomenon/rock star who won a Peace Prize before he'd signed a law....

In Roman times, they employed a man to follow behind Caesar saying "not god, not god." Obama does not have the benefit of that wisdom. he will leave office believing he was right....
 
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Fearandloathing said:
Great line...

I disagree that he should figure it out.

Even a candidate at the local level in Canadian 'grass roots' politics gets isolated......I suspect when the fate of the "free world" is at stake and you live in a palace, things get pretty filtered.

he came out of the gate, a savagely good campaigner, a phenomenon/rock star who won a Peace Prize before he'd signed a law....

In Roman times, they employed a man to follow behind Caesar saying "not god, not god." Obama does not have the benefit of that wisdom. he will leave office believing he was right....
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Obama does not appear to believe hes just a man.
 
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Fearandloathing said:
Great line...

I disagree that he should figure it out.

Even a candidate at the local level in Canadian 'grass roots' politics gets isolated......I suspect when the fate of the "free world" is at stake and you live in a palace, things get pretty filtered.

he came out of the gate, a savagely good campaigner, a phenomenon/rock star who won a Peace Prize before he'd signed a law....

In Roman times, they employed a man to follow behind Caesar saying "not god, not god." Obama does not have the benefit of that wisdom. he will leave office believing he was right....
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Sic transit gloria mundi.:peace
 
Re: White House Contacted Youtube DURING Benghazi Attack.

Fearandloathing said:
Distant and aloof is what they are now saying.

And this is new. when he was running and in his early days was eloquent and seemed compassionate. His reaction to the first school shooting was impressive, the Gabby Gifford case, less so and the beginning of a turn around.

I believe it is classic ineptitude and inexperience. Obama is a very, very arrogant man. He does not easily accept input and criticism is beneath contempt. I believe he saw the presidency as a his domain, was not prepared to be questioned by opponents and the media.

And, after the disasters of "if you like your plan..", Benghazi, Syria, IRS, VA, Israels 1967 borders and now Ukraine, he's figured out that anything he says will be examined for fact, and so says little.

I also think his ability to fake compassion for others has waned, he simply does not have the interest nor energy to maintain the facade. And, he doesn't care. He never did, really, but it was all about him and now that he has nothing to run for, he simply doesn't want to anymore
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For me the turn came when he stepped up to the mic at the Fort Hood shooting a started a sentence with "I want to give a shout out to.." like he was accepting a Nickelodeon teen award.
 
There's nothing in the linked article from the OP to conclude that the WH knew of the video that was initially blamed for starting the Benghazi attack or that the WH knew of the attack beforehand.

WH officials contacting Goggle/YouTube officials blasting them for airing the video isn't proof they knew about it before it aired.
 
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MMC said:
That is true OF :2wave: ......especially since it is a worry about Hillary and the State dept.....screwing up and Hiring Ansar Al Sharia as Security for Benghazi. That they don't want coming out and being up all the time to show how Incompetent Hillary and her team really were.

Which still says nothing about Hillary not even checking back on her people to see if they were alive and had made it out.
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Hillary gave away that she did not care with her: "What difference does it make?" statement.
 
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Helix said:
some other embassy attacks that warrant examination :

Attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

which of the attacks between 2001 and 2009 did you follow closely and demand an investigation of?
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I followed most of them. However I did not demand an investigation on any of them. Whether you like it or not....the others did not involve white house cover ups and lying to the American people. I can assure you that had the embassy and consulate in Libya been properly protected, a rescue operation mounted, and had no lies made their way out of the white house, I would be saying..."let's move on."
 
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Cardinal said:
And now you've progressed to 20/20 hindsight. First you say nobody was talking about the video before the attacks, then you even made the claim that I wasn't talking about the video before the attacks. Is there anything in your position in this thread that isn't outright bull****? Because I'm not seeing it. At least you moved the goalposts to nobody protesting at the embassy.
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You werent even a little bit talking about this POS video that NO ONE was concerned about. If you want to pretend it was even a blip on your radar...go right ahead. :lamo
 
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Helix said:
i have no problem with investigating an embassy attack. what i do have a problem with is selecting one attack for two years of saturation coverage in order to to use it as a tool against a political opponent.
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Once again....if not for the white house and the democrats in congress stonewalling the investigations, it would be over with by now.
 
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ObamacareFail said:
Hillary gave away that she did not care with her: "What difference does it make?" statement.
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Well, I thought Hicks testimony was even better when he said she never checked back. Much more impact coming from her own people.

Whats even better is she now knows.....that each one she left there. Can say she never checked back on them. Always coming out at the Right time should she run for the Presidency. Even better are those who use to be Demos and now will leave that party forever. All because of her and her people.
 
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Helix said:
so why shouldn't we devote two years of saturation coverage to the other attacks? there might have been coverups, and we wouldn't have any way of knowing.

you know why, and every participant in these threads knows, too.
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It is the white house stonewalling that is keeping the scandal alive. You are blaming the coverage...you should be blaming the white house stonewalling.
 
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Grant said:
You not only embarrass yourself with these juvenile responses, you embarrass the educational system of your country. Why not demonstrate some pride and actually try to offer some intelligent debate, otherwise why are you here?
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Grant, I am not particularly concerned with your opinion.

Fearandloathing promoted some ridiculous theory about how liberals intentionally don't reply until all the conservatives go to bed (or something equally as stupid). It didn't deserve more credit than I gave it.
 
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Helix said:
before i respond to you or anyone else, i require this :

please link me to a thread in which you demanded an investigation of any of the embassy attacks which occurred during the Bush administration. anywhere on the net. ready, set, go.
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You can be certain that if the democrats thought the republicans had anything to hide....they would have been all over it like flies on a cow patty. Look at hgow much time they wasted on the phony Valeri Plame scandal.
 
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Helix said:
i don't disagree with anything you posted. however, this saturation coverage of Benghazi by entertainment channels like fox news has rubbed me the wrong way for long enough that i finally had to respond. both sides do it, and i don't support it.
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If there were no story they would not be covering it at that level. Watergate and Iran/Contra drew as much coverage or more by the mass media.

our gerrymandered two party system just isn't working anymore, and we need to scrap it and try something else.
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Good luck with that wish.
 
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iguanaman said:
In other words no this is a partisan witchhunt with no substance. I have never heard of an investigation based on the presumption of lies. It stinks to high heaven.

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The lie about the Benghazi attacks being caused by a you tube video are quite blatant. You cannot wish this one away just because your party is in hot water.
 
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Fearandloathing said:
Even Canadians, beginning to hunker down for the winters in their igloos knew the story the next day, and it was hockey season!

The pro-progressive often Marxist taxpayer owned and funded Canadian Broadcasting Corporation was calling the Obama administration liars, running on going reports from the scene in Benghazi while the MSM was "commentating" from desks in some glass tower in New York.

The small percent of Americans who have the balls to consider that maybe they aren't getting all the story is about the only hope the country has.....
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The attempted white house cover up in regards to Benghazi is insulting to all Americans other then diehard partisan democrats. This arrogant white house sees itself as in control of the flow of information and expected us to blindly accept whatever they fed to us. To this white house, we are all just dumb peasants.
 
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Watch the President take to the podium to speak on the murder of 13 people and begin ... with a shout out.
 
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Cardinal said:
I've always said without exception that he utterly fubarred the post-crisis communication to the public. I've said that over and over and over again. It's just uninspiring, sadly, but not a scandal.
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It may not have been until the white house attempted to cover it up and lied to us about it for two solid weeks. But again, that is how some presidents get into deep trouble. Nixon lied in an attempt to cover up Watergate and Clinton lied in an attempt to mitigate the political damage from an extra-marital affair. Eric Holder is already in contempt of Congress. The longer this white house stonewalls the greater the chance they step into "obstruction of justice".
 
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VanceMack said:
You werent even a little bit talking about this POS video that NO ONE was concerned about. If you want to pretend it was even a blip on your radar...go right ahead. :lamo
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That's a mighty sizable claim you got there. Care to back it up?

Anyway, your strawman (that being that I personally cared about it) is a particularly bizarre red herring. After a while you just kind of expect that if somebody bad mouths Islam somebody's going to set a flag on fire or something.
 
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ObamacareFail said:
If there were no story they would not be covering it at that level. Watergate and Iran/Contra drew as much coverage or more by the mass media.



Good luck with that wish.
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thanks. i do have some hopes that the average non-hyperpartisan will get sick of hyperpartisan nonsense like i have.

anyway, no one has linked me to any thread anywhere on line in which they demanded an investigation of an embassy attack between 2001 and 2009, so i suppose there's nothing to do here. have a good one.
 
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ObamacareFail said:
It may not have been until the white house attempted to cover it up and lied to us about it for two solid weeks. But again, that is how some presidents get into deep trouble. Nixon lied in an attempt to cover up Watergate and Clinton lied in an attempt to mitigate the political damage from an extra-marital affair. Eric Holder is already in contempt of Congress. The longer this white house stonewalls the greater the chance they step into "obstruction of justice".
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And that is what is so frightening about the socialist hordes who back this guy....

They do not realize that by aiding and abetting this and every other White House concocted problem, they are placing the country in peril; each new president will look at what Obama has accomplished in deception, and consider that the new standard.

Clinton deliberately devalued the legal debate into one of tawdry suck jobs and seamen stained clothes; I for one can no longer think of the Oval Office as a place of honor and integrity, but of cheap, low life animal urges. But that, the spin of that narrow point enabled him to not get kicked out of office, an amazing accomplishment next to the likes of Theodore Roosevelt, FDR or Ronald Reagan.

But it stands, it cannot be removed this stain on the corridors of power and the way Clinton evaded the issue and escaped is now what Obama plays on every single issue; the dumbing down, over simplification reductivism that ranges from "So, you hate Obama and want people to die..." for finding fault with the ACA, to demanding enough evidence to impeach to justify an investigation at all.

It is the new reality where "it depends on what your definition of is, is" replaces integrity; even the foul, lying Harry S. Truman said "the buck stops here" which under Obama has come to mean "the buck gets passed FROM here..."
 
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Helix said:
thanks. i do have some hopes that the average non-hyperpartisan will get sick of hyperpartisan nonsense like i have.

anyway, no one has linked me to any thread anywhere on line in which they demanded an investigation of an embassy attack between 2001 and 2009, so i suppose there's nothing to do here. have a good one.
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I can also agree with some of the sentiments you shared. I have no faith that any investigation by any party or committee in Washington DC will get to the bottom of anything. However the idea someone must link you to an online source where someone demanded an investigation of an embassy attack between 2001 and 2009? Does not hold water. As they say, that dog don't hunt as an excuse or rationale for why the Benghazi attack is different from previous ones. First off every embassy attack in that time period was investigated; they all are no matter what year they occur in. This is just standard procedure.

In the case of Benghazi the early attempts to spin the attack and the possible coverup that resulted in the aftermath? Stand out in stark contrast to pretty much every attack ever mounted against a US Embassy before it. Had previous embassy attacks found the White House so obviously involved in trying to alter the facts about the attack, just prior to a election? Are you saying such a occurrence would not have had calls for investigation and cries of coverup? Particularly when at such length after the attack, previously withheld subpenaed material that includes disturbing and possibly damning information and evidence contrary to the White House spin has just been forced from the administration by court order? Because that claim or stance is absurd on its face. :cool:
 
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