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    Re: Obama Establishes National Monument in New Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Heh, we might have been geared up better but that's exactly how we used to spend our vacations. And I love all the critters you listed.
    Me too, spent 5 years there in NM.

    Thing is, the Organs are different, you can climb up one side with some difficulty, but descending 9,000 feet straight down is another story.

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    Re: Obama Establishes National Monument in New Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I think Mexico's Southern Border is where one needs to start to turn the tap off to a trickle.....you don't think they can say they are doing any good job, do you?
    Oh I see, you're referring to the poor job that Mexico is doing in the war on drugs. First, the war on drugs is a rouse, but then I think you know that, otherwise this problem would have been repaired long ago. Neither party is willing to repair the drug problem or border security, otherwise it would have been done long ago. Furthermore, while it isn't an excuse, the Mexican government has a point when they note that American citizens have a responsibility in this as well, but unfortunately, they provide the demand!!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama Establishes National Monument in New Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    So is it your contention then that Yellowstone National Park, Yosemite National Park, and other federal parks and monuments should just be auctioned off to developers?
    That was my take away.
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    Re: Obama Establishes National Monument in New Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Hopefully the state will sue the govt over it. Supreme Court is on a roll right now, ruling against these kinds of unconstitutional actions.
    If the border control continue to drive onthat land, who will go after tham as they are a federal agency as well?

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    Re: Obama Establishes National Monument in New Mexico

    If New Mexico doesn't like this it can go to war against the USA and change it.

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    Re: Obama Establishes National Monument in New Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    So is it your contention then that Yellowstone National Park, Yosemite National Park, and other federal parks and monuments should just be auctioned off to developers?
    just a minor detail.. but Congress has control over national parks....the President can't designate a park all on his own.

    the answer to your overall question, is... hell no.

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    Re: Obama Establishes National Monument in New Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    If New Mexico doesn't like this it can go to war against the USA and change it.
    ..well, it doesn't really warrant a war... a simple legislative bill would work ( there's one in the House right now to limit the Presidents power to unilaterally designate public land usage)

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    Re: Obama Establishes National Monument in New Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    just a minor detail.. but Congress has control over national parks....the President can't designate a park all on his own.

    the answer to your overall question, is... hell no.
    Right, but it was his contention that the government (executive or legislative) has no authority to create any sorts of parks or monuments.
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    Re: Obama Establishes National Monument in New Mexico

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Right, but it was his contention that the government (executive or legislative) has no authority to create any sorts of parks or monuments.
    we all have contentions that prove false at one time or another <shrug>

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    Re: Obama Establishes National Monument in New Mexico

    I'll bet that goes nowhere.

    How would they get it past the president's veto?

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