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    Re: Obama on VA allegations: 'I will not stand for it'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    When my dad went to the VA, he got right in, saw a doctor right away, and was admitted to the hospital. That was in California.

    I wonder if the problems with the VA might be local rather than a general indictment of VA?

    Or, maybe the services have been overwhelmed by the needs of soldiers coming home from Iraq and Afganistan with severe war wounds.
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    Re: Obama on VA allegations: 'I will not stand for it'

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Don't want to run off track but there are many who believe that the government getting involved heavily in health care is a good thing and nothing like VA will occur. Glowing reports from other countries, including Canada, have been used as examples of government competence. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/cana...192709161.html Caveat Emptor!
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    Re: Obama on VA allegations: 'I will not stand for it'

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    There is no excuse for the inexcusable. Stop fishing for one.
    I didn't say there was, just that the inexcusable story might be an isolated incident.
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    Re: Obama on VA allegations: 'I will not stand for it'

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Aint that the truth. The Left's solution for failed government is always more government.
    Heya JM BO's response to this is quite telling isn't it.....he is still waiting to find out things thru the investigation huh? I think he could have went with the press and figured out they weren't lying when they said Vets had died due to these lists. Coming out of 9 different locations now.


    Think about this.....the VA is almost like a Single Payer System. So we are getting a preview of what it will be like under single payer. Layers and layers of bureaucracy. Which leads to more inefficiencies, more regulations.

    One thing the Democrats and Team BO do need to start learning......is to quit calling on whatever Dept or Agency to investigate it's ownself. Enough is enough.

    We have Fraud and Crimes here.....so you don't let the VA investigate itself. There is no way they can investigate themselves properly. Same deal with the IRS. Same Deal with the State Dept. The press needs to start hitting home on that very fact with BO.

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    Re: Obama on VA allegations: 'I will not stand for it'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I didn't say there was, just that the inexcusable story might be an isolated incident.
    Obama didn't tout it as an 'isolated incident' in 2008. He strongly criticized President Bush's 'incompetent' administration of the VA and solemnly promised that in his (Obama's) administration it would not stand and it would be corrected immediately. Now, six years later he claims he is just finding out how bad things are and solemnly promises to get to the bottom of it?

    Sorry. That pig already flew sometime back.
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    Re: Obama on VA allegations: 'I will not stand for it'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I didn't say there was, just that the inexcusable story might be an isolated incident.
    I would say given the evidence you have provided that it is more likely that your father's competent care through the VA is the isolated incident.
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    Re: Obama on VA allegations: 'I will not stand for it'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    You can't hold the boss responsible for his Administration actions.
    Actually, we should hold them all, Democrat and Republican alike, accountable. The Republicans who are screaming about this the most filibustered the Veterans Health Bill. Talk about partisan douchebaggery. Does Obama need to be held accountable? You bet your ass he does. And don't forget that this was a scandal under the Bush administration too. Remember Walter Reed? Only the worst partisan hacks will attack Obama without attacking their own, who are just as ****ing responsible. Me? I'm glad I'm an equal opportunity basher. Political party doesn't matter. I hate every damn one of those self-serving sons of bitches.
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    Re: Obama on VA allegations: 'I will not stand for it'

    Jon Stewart, nobody's idea of a rightwinger, and admittedly an entertainer, got it right on the VA Hospital mess, and for once told the truth about those eeeeeeevul Republicans:

    John Stewart Goes Off on Obama's Incompetence and Broken Promises to Fix the VA Backlogs | Clash Daily

    He didn't give them any kind of a pass, but he was honest they they are NOT responsible for how the problem has so escalated and become so much worse under Obama.
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    Re: Obama on VA allegations: 'I will not stand for it'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    While I agree, can you imagine the progressive attack against Republican's had they proposed doing away with the VA, or cutting funding in favor of this?
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    Re: Obama on VA allegations: 'I will not stand for it'

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Actually, we should hold them all, Democrat and Republican alike, accountable. The Republicans who are screaming about this the most filibustered the Veterans Health Bill. Talk about partisan douchebaggery. Does Obama need to be held accountable? You bet your ass he does. And don't forget that this was a scandal under the Bush administration too. Remember Walter Reed? Only the worst partisan hacks will attack Obama without attacking their own, who are just as ****ing responsible. Me? I'm glad I'm an equal opportunity basher. Political party doesn't matter. I hate every damn one of those self-serving sons of bitches.


    Actually we should present it for what it was.


    Republicans criticized how most of Sanders' bill was paid for — with unspent money from the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq and the winding down of American military involvement in Afghanistan. The GOP says those are not real savings because no one expected those dollars to be spent as those wars ended.

    Republicans also objected to provisions making more veterans without service-connected injuries eligible for treatment at Department of Veterans Affairs facilities. They said that would swamp an already overburdened system.

    Within moments, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee unleashed an email headlined, "Mitch McConnell Votes Against Kentucky Veterans." McConnell is up for re-election this year.

    Republicans said there would be no retribution from voters because the Democratic bill would have harmed veterans' services by flooding them with too many people. They also said this year's election campaigns will focus on other issues, such as President Barack Obama's health law.

    "We're sort of fooling ourselves to believe that this drives the election issue list," said Sen. Richard Burr of North Carolina, top Republican on the Veterans' Affairs Committee.

    Thursday's showdown came after Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D) of Nevada refused to allow votes on a GOP amendment slicing the bill's size and adding the penalties against Iran for its nuclear program.

    Obama opposes new penalties while international negotiations with Iran proceed.

    Fifty-nine senators of both parties have sponsored a separate bill imposing the punishment if the talks fail, though Obama's effort has weakened Democratic calls for a quick Senate vote. A vote could put the administration and some Democrats who favor the proposal in an awkward spot.....snip~

    Republicans block Senate bill to boost veterans' benefits - CSMonitor.com

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