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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

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    I've often heard my area referred to as central PA...I live ~25 mins west of Harrisburg, though...
    maybe then, but for the stereo type id include Harrisburg in with philly
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

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    In their minds, that's exactly what they were doing.

    The ones in CA who voted for Prop 8 were mostly religious people, based on the exit polls. Apparently it was their religion that caused them to vote as they did. I would need to see some evidence that their votes were based on an intent to ignore individual liberties.
    I would say it was more because of the dirty 'smear and fear' ad campaigns vilifying gay and lesbian people.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I've often heard my area referred to as central PA...I live ~25 mins west of Harrisburg, though...
    Someone once described Pennsylvania to me, like this: You have Philadelphia on one side, Pittsburgh on the other, and West Virginia in the middle.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Someone once described Pennsylvania to me, like this: You have Philadelphia on one side, Pittsburgh on the other, and West Virginia in the middle.
    I think "Pennsyltucky" is another common one.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Calling someone a homosexual without knowing anything about their sexuality, and you know nothing about me in that regard, is always done to insult, and is not an acknowledging of anything....since again, you know nothing about me in this regard, nor have I expressed it.

    It is just juvenile delinquent, sophomoric attempts to get a rise....and it fails.

    Hint: Stop trying to make every argument personal....and just deal with your counter-argument.

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    I assumed you were gay, and said as much, and you told me that was an insult.

    End. Of. Story.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    He's against it but not contesting the ruling...trying to have it both ways? Not piss off the pro-SSM types by contesting, but can still say he opposes it to those who are against it?

    Then again, I think most people in PA just don't give a damn about stopping it...what's the point? If you're opposed to SSM, you very probably aren't homosexual, so...how does it effect you?

    It might just be that I don't know anyone overtly opposed...
    Personally, I think most people who dislike the idea of SSM tend to think "meh, it's their business".

    If he's trying to appeal to those persons, it might be a good move.



    Edit: On another note, I just realized you live in Pittsburgh...shows how observant I am...coincidentally I have a RL friend who lives there.
    I think you can be against something and not contest a ruling. He's a politician, he knows the overturning won't be overturned (did I say that right?), and his personal views are secondary at this point.

    I'm not sure it's all about appealing to the voters. I think it's probably a combination of "I don't want to torpedo my political career getting too involved in this hot topic" and "I won't win anyway".

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Ceist View Post
    I would say it was more because of the dirty 'smear and fear' ad campaigns vilifying gay and lesbian people.
    If there is some data out there supporting this, I'd love to see it.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I assumed you were gay, and said as much, and you told me that was an insult.

    End. Of. Story.
    As I said, calling someone a homosexual without knowing anything about their sexuality, and you know nothing about me in that regard, is always done to insult, and is not an acknowledging of anything....since again, you know nothing about me in this regard, nor have I expressed it in this thread.

    It is just juvenile delinquent, sophomoric attempts to get a rise....and it fails.

    Hint: Stop trying to make every argument personal....and just deal with your counter-argument.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    If there is some data out there supporting this, I'd love to see it.
    The tactics used by pro-Prop 8 campaigners were not merely homophobic. They were laser-focused to exploit Californians’ deepest and most irrational fears about gay people, indoctrinating an entire state with cruelly anti-gay propaganda. Early on, Prop 8’s supporters decided to focus their campaign primarily on children, stoking parents’ fears about gay people brainwashing their kids with pro-gay messages or, implicitly, turning their children gay.

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    Another notorious commercial shows an earnest school administrator fretting that a “new health curriculum” that mentions gay marriage will “mess up” children with reference to “gay attraction.”

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    And Prop 8 supporters quickly zeroed in on the terrifying possibility that religious adoption agencies “may be forced to place children in same-sex marriages.”

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    In perhaps the most insulting ad, two gay fathers are quizzed about marriage and reproduction by their daughter; the takeaway, of course, is that this faux-family is twisting the mind and morals of their child with perverse ideas about marriage and love.

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    This message of belittlement cut across pretty much every pro-Prop 8 ad—ads that ran incessantly in the state for months. The campaign’s strategy was to debase gay families as deviant and unhealthy while insinuating that gay people are engaged in a full-scale campaign to convert children to their cause. This strategy worked. And it worked because wealthy donors like Brendan Eich flooded the campaign with the money it needed to run ads like the like the one featuring the Pepperdine professor's grave warning.* Eich wasn’t just a casual opponent of marriage equality. He was a major contributor to the most vitriolic anti-gay campaign in American history, one that set the standard of homophobic propaganda that continues to this day. When we talk about Eich’s anti-gay stance, we aren’t just talking about abstract beliefs. We’re talking about concrete actions that harmed thousands of gay families and informed innumerable gay Americans that they were sinful, corrupted predators.

    Brendan Eich supported Prop 8, which was worse than you remember.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    As I said, calling someone a homosexual without knowing anything about their sexuality, and you know nothing about me in that regard, is always done to insult, and is not an acknowledging of anything....since again, you know nothing about me in this regard, nor have I expressed it in this thread.

    It is just juvenile delinquent, sophomoric attempts to get a rise....and it fails.

    Hint: Stop trying to make every argument personal....and just deal with your counter-argument.

    Check yourself before you totally wreck yourself.
    I assumed you were gay, and you told me that was an insult. End of story.

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