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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    didnt say posters i said examples analogies and like i said i thought who your original qoute was to gave those analogizes or was replying to them

    and you still havent clarified your statement "all of the above" yet, are you taking that back now?
    I was talking only about the posters in this thread in the post you asked me to calcify/clarify.

    "All of the above" were rights that the posters in this thread who were being attacked had/have.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Sorry, what I meant to post was that 70% of the black bigots who voted for Obama voted in favor of Prop 8.
    That's more accurate...but even those numbers are overly inflated.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    I don't care about any of that, only exposing certain posters of obvious contradictions. When a ballot initiative coincides with their own beliefs despite violating the constitution and previous SCOTUS rulings, it's "our great democracy at work"; when a ballot drive takes away their guns or other things they desperately cling to it's "tyranny of the majority / unconstitutional"
    So then it's a moot point because there isn't a chance that states will try to ban prayer and/or guns.

    We can come up with examples all day long of things that will never happen. They may put a proposal on my state's ballot banning dogs or prohibiting the eating of pizza on Tuesdays too. I'll worry about all of that when it happens.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That's more accurate...but even those numbers are overly inflated.
    70% of African Americans backed Prop. 8, exit poll finds | L.A. NOW | Los Angeles Times

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So then it's a moot point because there isn't a chance that states will try to ban prayer and/or guns.

    We can come up with examples all day long of things that will never happen. They may put a proposal on my state's ballot banning dogs or prohibiting the eating of pizza on Tuesdays too. I'll worry about all of that when it happens.
    We've had states try to ban guns several times (although it happens more often that it is cities/communities rather than entire states), and those laws were struck down by the SCOTUS.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I was talking only about the posters in this thread in the post you asked me to calcify/clarify.

    "All of the above" were rights that the posters in this thread who were being attacked had/have.
    so it was not all of the above because that would still make it false since my list in all of the above included illegal discrimaintion and thats not a right
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    so it was not all of the above because that would still make it false since my list in all of the above included illegal discrimaintion and thats not a right
    Okay, you and I see differently on this. You see them as bigots. I see them as people exercising their First Amendment rights and not breaking any laws.

    In America we won't always see things the same way.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    70% of those bigots in California who voted in favor of Prop 8 in 2008 voted for Barack Obama.
    Is that an argument for them having the right to vote?
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So then it's a moot point because there isn't a chance that states will try to ban prayer and/or guns.

    We can come up with examples all day long of things that will never happen. They may put a proposal on my state's ballot banning dogs or prohibiting the eating of pizza on Tuesdays too. I'll worry about all of that when it happens.
    Actually gun bans have been tried many times, and prayer banned at a school or attempts to use a loudspeaker at high school football field to pray, or a "ten commandments" granite block at the state government building. The conservatives always launch into hysteria at these rulings despite some of them are constitutionally correct.

    Just pick anything, realistic or not, that clownboy wouldn't approve of and imagine it's put into law by oregon voters and there you have it, "tyranny of the majority"

    That's why it's impossible to take these pleas for "more democracy/less activist judges" seriously. BTW, how many judges have to make this ruling for that complaint to die off? Is 13 in a row enough? Maybe next year, when the SCOTUS makes the same ruling? I'll take educated judges over the mob any day, especially when it comes to actually upholding the constitution!

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Interesting you used the term 'WE'

    Is this some sort of group effort or are you delusional?
    Everyone in this and other SSM threads has seen you use the BIble to prop up your stance on SSM. That is the 'we.'

    They post direct questions to you disputing the validity of using that to base law on. Have you missed that, or are you delusional?


    Now, the diversion didnt work: can you explain how this passage (from your link) doesnt apply just the same to gays or not? Otherwise, that is another argument that does not work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa
    Thanks. Please point out anything in this passage that cant be applied to a gay couple as well?

    "The term “one flesh” means that just as our bodies are one whole entity and cannot be divided into pieces and still be a whole, so God intended it to be with the marriage relationship. There are no longer two entities (two individuals), but now there is one entity (a married couple). There are a number of aspects to this new union.

    As far as emotional attachments are concerned, the new unit takes precedence over all previous and future relationships (Genesis 2:24). Some marriage partners continue to place greater weight upon ties with parents than with the new partner. This is a recipe for disaster in the marriage and is a perversion of God’s original intention of “leaving and cleaving.” A similar problem can develop when a spouse begins to draw closer to a child to meet emotional needs rather than to his or her partner.

    Emotionally, spiritually, intellectually, financially, and in every other way, the couple is to become one."
    Last edited by Lursa; 05-22-14 at 08:18 PM. Reason: added quote
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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