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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Nobody said there was one.

    If you truly respect the Constitution, you would not insult people who have religious beliefs. That is a protected right.

    Insult them all you want, but you should also be prepared to be called out on your lack of respect for the Constitution.
    You are disrespecting the constitution right now because you are criticizing my speech.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    30 judges do not make a compelling case. You should support gay marriage because it's what you believe to be right, not what some judge thinks. Do you let judges do all your thinking for you? If 30 judges say gay marriage isn't a right, are they rigth too, just because they are judges? Are judges infallible, Kal? I don't believe they are. They are humans, just like you & me. Put 10 of them in a room and show them a statute, and I'll bet you'll get 6 different interpretations.

    30 judges in the past probably thought slavery was a good idea. Were they right, just because they were judges?

    Religious beliefs are protected by the Constitution. It's written in black & white. No judge needs to interpret that.
    They don't make a compelling case? Then, by all means, provide a rebuttal to any reasoning in any of their decisions.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    30 judges do not make a compelling case. You should support gay marriage because it's what you believe to be right, not what some judge thinks. Do you let judges do all your thinking for you? If 30 judges say gay marriage isn't a right, are they rigth too, just because they are judges? Are judges infallible, Kal? I don't believe they are. They are humans, just like you & me. Put 10 of them in a room and show them a statute, and I'll bet you'll get 6 different interpretations.

    30 judges in the past probably thought slavery was a good idea. Were they right, just because they were judges?

    Religious beliefs are protected by the Constitution. It's written in black & white. No judge needs to interpret that.
    I've been pro-ssm long before it became kosher to be pro-ssm. So no, the judges didn't affect my thinking in the slightest. And yeah, 30 judges in the same room, I'd scoff at them to if they came up with a ruling I didn't like. But 30 judges across the country with nothing in common other than that they are judges? I'd shut up about it. I might not like the rulings, but I would still shut up about it.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The 1st amendment has another part in it that applies here. Freedom of Speech. As long as I don't attempt to deny them their right to exercise their religious beliefs then I'm not going against the Constitution, indeed I am also exercising MY right to insult them. Insulting their religious beliefs is not the same as denying them their right to exercise their religious beliefs.

    And yes, it is my opinion. Which is JUST as valid as their beliefs which is nothing more than opinions also.

    <sigh> Nobody said you don't have a right to insult people, Kal. That's your choice.

    You seem to be missing my point. You can ignore their rights and insult them until you're blue in the face. What exactly have you accomplished by doing that?

    This is what I'm talking about. Is this all about insulting people, or is this because anyone really gives a **** about gay marriage? The war cries of "I can insult whoever I want and they can suck it up" sound a little more personal, and no that isn't just you. I see the "nanny nanny boo boo your side is losing" posts all over the place. Is this some sort of contest?

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    <sigh> Nobody said you don't have a right to insult people, Kal. That's your choice.

    You seem to be missing my point. You can ignore their rights and insult them until you're blue in the face. What exactly have you accomplished by doing that?

    This is what I'm talking about. Is this all about insulting people, or is this because anyone really gives a **** about gay marriage? The war cries of "I can insult whoever I want and they can suck it up" sound a little more personal, and no that isn't just you. I see the "nanny nanny boo boo your side is losing" posts all over the place. Is this some sort of contest?
    Here's what you are missing. It's not disrespectful of the constitution to express my disapproval of someone else's beliefs. That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I watch people day in and day out on this board insult religious believers, which I happen not to be (my choice) but I respect people's right to have religious beliefs. Those tend to be the same people who screech about the Constitutional rights of people to marry whomever they want. I believe people should marry whomever they want because I'm one of those people who thinks that grown ups should do whatever works for them, which in my world includes polygamy, siblings, and their computers if they want to claim a loving union with that. I don't' think that because Chief Justice Burger said in 1967 that interracial couples can marry or some judge in 2014 said gay people can marry. I think it because I think it based on my own opinion.

    It can't be both ways. Either the Constitution grants rights, or it doesn't. It clearly states with no ambiguity a right to exercise religion. I have a problem with people's use of the Constitution when it suits their purposes, and ignoring it when it doesn't.
    When it comes to gay marriage, I believe it is the right of the people to decide by a vote whether they want it in their neck of the woods or not and that decision either way needs to be respected. I have a real problem with political appointed judges overturning the will of the majority of the people especially when they do not base their entire argument on constitutional law. Most recently the case in Oregon. The judge was gay himself and made his ruling based in part on his personal feelings. When the baker in Colorado was found violating accommodation laws the ruling of that judge was based on emotion in part for making the gay couple "feel bad" for not baking them a cake. This is ridiculous.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I've been pro-ssm long before it became kosher to be pro-ssm. So no, the judges didn't affect my thinking in the slightest. And yeah, 30 judges in the same room, I'd scoff at them to if they came up with a ruling I didn't like. But 30 judges across the country with nothing in common other than that they are judges? I'd shut up about it. I might not like the rulings, but I would still shut up about it.
    So you will say the same thing to any of the posters in this thread scoffing on the rights of people like Vesper when those people scream about a ruling that SCOTUS hands down? Or when a judge lets a kiddie rapist go, you'll say "shut up" to them?

    I don't like a lot of rulings that have been handed down, from SCOTUS to the circuit courts to local courts. Should I shut up about them, or am I free to have an express an opposing opinion without being insulted.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They don't make a compelling case? Then, by all means, provide a rebuttal to any reasoning in any of their decisions.
    WTF? Read my posts. I'm pro-gay marriage. Good grief.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    1.)What part of breaking their moral conscience versus breaking man made laws don't you understand?
    2.) Sure they could have violated what in their soul they believe to be right to adhere to your accommodation laws but they chose to not compromise their conscience.
    3.)And thanks to folks like you it cost them dearly.
    1.) i understand the lie you present perfectly its just nobody educated and honest buys it. They choose to break the law, that's thier fault next times the dummies will know better or face the consequences of breaking the law again.
    2.) or simply not break the law like morons
    3.) wrong again LMAO i had nothing to do with. ANy costs they have to go through are due to thier vast stupidity, selfishness and ignorance. Maybe next time those criminals wont break the law.
    SOrry freedom, rights and laws bother you but they are the same for all of us, you can continue to support criminals if you like but i wont I like freedom and rights.
    If you disagree simply post ONE fact that supports the lie they were forced to break the law . . . . ONE lol we'd LOVE to read it.


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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So you will say the same thing to any of the posters in this thread scoffing on the rights of people like Vesper when those people scream about a ruling that SCOTUS hands down? Or when a judge lets a kiddie rapist go, you'll say "shut up" to them?

    I don't like a lot of rulings that have been handed down, from SCOTUS to the circuit courts to local courts. Should I shut up about them, or am I free to have an express an opposing opinion without being insulted.
    See, you still really don't get it. You don't have the right to express an opinion "without being insulted." You have the right to express that opinion without the government punishing you for doing so.

    As for vesper's rights, when he starts supporting my right to skip recurrent training as a commercial pilot due to my religious objections, I might consider his right to not bake a cake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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