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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Should heterosexual judges recuse themselves every time a case involving heterosexual marriage comes up? I'd bet that you would say "no". It's hypocritical to say that a gay judge should recuse themselves regarding a gay case while allowing a heterosexual judge to rule on heterosexual marraiges.

    Besides, AFAIK there have only been two homosexual judges that have ruled on this issue and they have agreed each time with rulings made by far more heterosexual judges when it comes to the right to marriage.
    In the case of something as controversial as SSM and given the fact he made it known that he was Gay for all to hear, I suspect bias and conflict of interest. Therefor yes I do think he should have recused himself. Other judges do it for far lesser reasons.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    I'm pro-gay marriage but I am curious when the freedoms of polygamists are going to be taken up as a cause, and the cause for people who want to marry their siblings?

    Marriage should be open to everyone who is of legal age.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    If they have a horse in the race, yes.
    Can you prove that judge had a horse in the race? Just because he's a homosexual doesn't mean that he wants to get married.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    In the case of something as controversial as SSM and given the fact he made it known that he was Gay for all to hear, I suspect bias and conflict of interest. Therefor yes I do think he should have recused himself. Other judges do it for far lesser reasons.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    That's how conservatives roll. More laws, more government interference, less freedom, mob rule, it's a nasty vision of society that their agenda serves.
    As person described as 'very Liberal" should have no problem with bigger government. As a matter of fact, that's one of the basic and most common definitions of a modern Liberal.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Actually conservatives, real ones, advocate the opposite of what you posted here.
    Maybe, in theory, but not in specifics. Conservatives generally favour the war on drugs, mandatory sentences, anti-abortion laws, anti-gay laws, stronger police powers (if anyone ever said to you, "What are you afraid of if you have nothing to hide?", it was a conservative).
    I'd venture to say that nearly every advance in personal liberties was pushed forward by liberals and resisted by conservatives.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    And for a couple of centuries homosexuals were treated as criminals and they dared not come out...much less demand that they be treated with equal rights. As such it was never brought before the courts before. Now that they have the security to come out they are bringing their case before the courts. As is proper.

    BTW: It took a couple of centuries before Loving v. Virginia to happen also. Are you going to try and use your excuse on that case as well? It would at least be consistant.....
    Actually, no on that last. It took less than four years. Before the Civil Rights Act of 1964 the constitution and federal law was silent on the issue of interracial marriage. The Loving decision came in 1967.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm pro-gay marriage but I am curious when the freedoms of polygamists are going to be taken up as a cause, and the cause for people who want to marry their siblings?

    Marriage should be open to everyone who is of legal age.
    I'd have no problem with allowing polygamy. Incest however, no thanks. For the simple fact that genetics don't like it and its too easy for the dominate sibling to "persuade" the non-dominate sibling into such things.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Indeed..

    An openly Gay judge ruled on the Oregon law yesterday. (should have recused himself)

    US judge strikes down Oregon gay marriage ban as state refuses to defend it (+video) - CSMonitor.com

    This will continue until the states say NO MORE!
    Why should he have recused himself?

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    As person described as 'very Liberal" should have no problem with bigger government. As a matter of fact, that's one of the basic and most common definitions of a modern Liberal.
    Don't tell me what I believe. I've been liberal all my life and all I ask of the government is for it to stay as far out of my life as it can get. Some conservative politician is always trying to give the government more power to interfere where it doesn't belong.
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