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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Peoples votes dont mean squat when they are unconstitutional lol
    I think the correct phrase is the logical fallacy "argumentum ad populum"
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Not really, the second part is the important modifier. Again, not a pure democracy.
    No it's not an important modifier. We've come to a place where the constitution means whatever the judiciary decides it means and that meaning changes.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The Republic has been on decline for some time. This issue didn't cause it, nor has it exacerbated it.
    The issue itself, no. The decisions, yes.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) why? theres no logic for this at all lol
    2.) states dont get to make that decision. This is why the states are losing. They have no rights to violate the constitution/individual rights so the FED is fixing it.
    When a judge can legislate from the bench against the will of the people, the Constitution has been trashed regardless.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Those terrible robed ayatollahs, not allowing you to vote against someone else's freedom based on nothing more than the fact that you don't like their freedom. We're basically Iran!
    You said it. But that's the way our republic has gone. The difference is that our ayatollahs aren't necessarily religious.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You said it. But that's the way our republic has gone. The difference is that our ayatollahs aren't necessarily religious.
    Is amusing that you think the constitution grants you the right to vote against someone else's freedom.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Constitutions exist in large measure to protect people from the vicissitudes and opinions of the majority. By establishing universal rights you are shielding people from the... people. You could get 90% of a state to vote for an infringement on speech but it would be void because of my constitutional rights. The voters perspectives are irrelevant in the face of that.
    That's not true. A majority of the people may amend the constitution. Constitutions exist to grant and restrict governmental power.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    When a judge can legislate from the bench against the will of the people, the Constitution has been trashed regardless.
    They aren't legislating from the bench. People like you were oppressing from the ballot box, and the judges stopped you. Sorry if this offends you.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Is amusing that you think the constitution grants you the right to vote against someone else's freedom.

    It's amusing that you've never heard of the initiative process and seemingly in your universe state and local elections never occur.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They aren't legislating from the bench. People like you were oppressing from the ballot box, and the judges stopped you. Sorry if this offends you.
    Oh yes great slave to the alter of huge government. May it bestow on you your every fantasy.
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