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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No, the issue is NOT just about legalities.

    If that were the case then these people would have been satisfied with Civil Unions.

    No, this is activism, a coordinated attack of a age old definition that transcends Religion and cultures and races.
    Separate but equal is unConstitutional.

    Not to mention that 'marriage' means exactly the same thing to many gay couples as it does to straight ones....meaning it has a special traditional value to them as well.

    Of course, not all straight couples look at it that way either.

    Is there a good reason....any you can give...why gays should not be able to 'marry' under that term?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    It does screw you on tax day.

    My point is by his decision, his and other Gay couples will benefit if they choose to do so. He even admits in his ruling the he's going against the wishes of the majority in 'his' state and makes out like it's a hard decision.

    I say he's biased.
    THe wishes of the majority are tyranny against the minority if it's a civil rights issue. WHich this is. *Equal protection clause*
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    Can you explain what is sacred about meeting a woman at Centrifuge in the MGM and 4 hours later marrying her in a drivetru chapel by and Elvis impersonator. Until you start looking to make that illegal you are not exactly going to win the sacred institution argument.
    Exactly...there are no moral, reproductive, or other criteria that are required for straight people to marry, except age or mental competance.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    It's the STATE who's demanding SSM be made legal over the will of the people. Statism (they actually have their grubby fingers in all marriage)

    As it is only. a small protion of society have any say at all. ( the point of my discontent)
    No. It is the people who are demanding that same sex marriage be made legal. The state has no power to change laws that are not challenged by the people.

    Your discontent comes from the fact that you wish to keep laws that restrict marriage based on sex/gender in place merely because you don't think they "fit". Too bad.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Lol...

    Then push to force the Federal Government to recognize legal civil unions instead of attacking a sacred istitution.
    Is that a joke? What is sacred about divorce, adultery, domestic abuse?

    Not only that, such (straight) people are free to marry again and again.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Religions of the world have a great bit of affect on people within their membership. (some of you don't understand religion at all)

    Didn't know Zeus was a religion.
    They can have a great deal of affect, if those religions are in charge or if the people allow those religions to have a say in their lives.

    I understand religion a great deal. From your posts, it seems a whole lot more than you do.

    Zeus is a god that comes from another religion. Zeus is part of another religion, a religion that has so few current believers, that it is considered "dead" by most people.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No. We are winning the push to allow same sex couples to marry. Why would I want more government institutions when there is no legitimate reason the one available now, marriage, won't work for same sex couples the same way it does for me and other opposite sex couples?

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    More bureaucracy! Hmm, doesnt sound very 'conservative' to me. Fiscally foolish for sure, to maintain 2 systems.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    You can't prove otherwise!

    I've study several but, the KJV is my favorite. We often reference the study Bible as well.
    It is your place to prove an assertion, as in the assertion "the Bible is inspired by God". It is not my place to prove that it isn't.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No, the traditional and fundamental definition of a marriage is centered around a Family unit that includes a Mother and Father and Children.

    Two Gay men deprive a child of a Mother,two Gay women deprive a child of a Father.

    Sorry, but there is a Good reason Gay Marriage hasn't been Socially acceptable for much of Recorded human history and then some.

    Your Opinions are meaningless.

    Oh and 30 activist Judges disagree with me. So what ?

    You're rights aren't being denied if its currently ILLEGAL to marry someone of the same Sex.

    You dont like the Law ? Tough cookies.
    We chose to not have kids....no one prevented our marrying....we deprived imaginary kids of parents!

    Also there are plenty of families that do not have a mommy or a daddy.

    The word marriage has nothing to do with reproduction and families. That's why there are thousands of families headed by gay couples now. THey reproduce naturally, they adopt, use surrogacy, IV, whatever. In case you havent noticed, they want families very badly because they often have to work HARDER to have them.

    Gay unions do not mean fewer families....please provide some data that shows that. And giving them use of the word marriage will not change that...they will continue to couple up and have families. What 'marriage' does provide is added protection for the children of those unions.

    Reproduction is one of the strongest instincts we have....and there's no evidence that gay people have any less....they will have families whether or not they are allowed to use the word 'marriage.'
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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