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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    But the agenda of the minority should dictate the rights of the majority ?
    Well. Glad you've joined the majority of Americans who support gay marriage.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

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    Only in Western culture.

    European colonization and Christianity/Islam are the primary culprits of the rejection of LGBT people.
    Those two sentences are contradictory. It's clearly more than just Western culture, in fact, it is- as has been rightly pointed out- an eye-watering majority of human history and civilizations.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

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    Those two sentences are contradictory. It's clearly more than just Western culture, in fact, it is- as has been rightly pointed out- an eye-watering majority of human history and civilizations.
    I disagree, but I've got to run to the gym.

    At least I'll live to see Western culture completely reverse itself and spearhead the removal of the bans on gay marriage / widespread acceptance of LGBT people.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    1.)But the agenda of the minority should dictate the rights of the majority ?
    2.) No one is depriving them of their rights.
    3.) Its not about equal treatment, this is about activism.
    4.)Attacking the traditional definition of marriage.
    5.) tradition or a standard that wasn't voted on. It arose out of a natural process of societal evolution.
    6.) It transcended religion and culture as different groups of peoppe alver the world accepted and agreed upon the fundamental definition of what a marriage is.
    7.) Now that definition is being challenged in the name of equal rights.
    8.) But if your attacked and ostracized for your opinion, an opinion that contradicts theirs, how are your equal rights being protected ?
    9.)Its their way or the High way. Thats not equal rights.
    10.)Thats a dictatorship.
    1.) what agenda?
    majority agrees with equal rights
    and neither minority or majority can infringe on the rights of others
    You seem very confused on the facts of this issue and how rights works
    2.) as over federal judges disagree with your statment
    3.) wrong again as facts prove
    4.) another failed strawman, its not under attack in any way what so ever by equal rights
    5.) your opinions of traditions and standards dont matter to equal rights/legal marriage
    6.) see #5
    7.) false its not being challenged you are still free have it
    8.) more fantasy
    9.) actually it is equal rights. YOU dont want it but the Constitution is against you so its happening anyway.
    10.) nope it equality winning over your dictatorship

    your way they dont have equal rights
    the constitutions way you both do

    facts win again
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Only in Western culture.



    European colonization and Christianity/Islam are the primary culprits of the rejection of LGBT people.

    -and- how much of the world was influenced by these religions and throw in Judaism while you're at it. What's left?




    ority of American support gay marriage. You're in a tiny minority.
    I don't think the voting record supports this claim.

    As to your examples of the celebration of homosexuality and of gender differences recognition, it doesn't apply to Fenton's argument as neither of these civilizations contributed in any meaningful way to modern society. I'd also argue the truth about some of those wiki claims, but would it really matter?


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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    I disagree, but I've got to run to the gym.
    I don't think you can disagree with facts unfortunately.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    But the agenda of the minority should dictate the rights of the majority ?
    What rights of yours go away due to legal SSM?
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    I disagree, but I've got to run to the gym.

    At least I'll live to see Western culture completely reverse itself and spearhead the removal of the bans on gay marriage / widespread acceptance of LGBT people.
    Ehh, the Romans were the epitome of Western culture I believe (since they encompassed almost the entire western world at one point and influenced all peoples that would later become the French, Germans, etc.). And the Romans were as open as open gets, homosexuality? Take it a step further and have old guys screwing young boys legally and in some cases encouraged to do so.

    Sexuality in ancient Rome - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Ehh, hell it was a way to determine social status too I guess. Anything and everything was legal in Rome, and Ancient Rome is like I said the epitome of Western Civilization and ultimately, western culture.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Only in Western culture.

    Most non-Western culture celebrated homosexuality and gender minorities. India, Japan and SE Asia have long traditions of accepting not only towards LGBT people, but people of third and fourth genders. The Bugis people in Indonesia (pop. ~5 million) have five genders. Had you been born in the pre-Colombian America and been gay, you'd have your own god that you worshiped or be considered a two-spirit. Take a look at the map, to get an idea of the widespread rejection of "male-female" only.

    European colonization and Christianity/Islam are the primary culprits of the rejection of LGBT people.


    The majority of American support gay marriage. You're in a tiny minority.


    LOL !!

    You're literally just making stuff up as you go along.

    North Africa was historically "Western culture" ?

    The Middle East ? South America ?

    And show me the Objective polls that show "most Americans support Gay marriage ".

    Because your opinion isn't worth the bandwidth you just wasted posting it

    The activist that are hypocritically claiming "equal rights" as they target and attack anyone who disagrees with their agenda are definitely NOT in the majority.

    The Majority of Americans didnt give a rats ass what people did in their Bed room.

    Forcing them to agree with a agenda with threats of exposure and personal attacks is a horrible way to build up support for a agenda.

    Its why this is going to backfire
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    What rights of yours go away due to legal SSM?
    no one as ever been able to give a factual and reality based answer to this question and they never will
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