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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Sounds more like a confused Libertarian.
    No confusion here. You sure you've got your definitions right?
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I shouldn't have gone to the trouble of finding that. It's a complete waste of time dealing with your insolence.

    Take your "please" and shove it.
    again let us know when you can defend your unsupportable statement
    not our fault your statement completely fails and the best support you could post was the ruling. A ruling that mirrors in many ways most of the other rulings made by straight judges but some how THIS one is magically different. Educated and honest people simply dont buy it.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    1.)Do you think the judge was completely impartial (which is one of the reasons for recusal)?

    2.)Before you go ballistic on me, remember that I am pro-gay marriage (and pro-polygamist and pro-sibling marriage as well).
    1.) have no clue what was going on in his head so i cant factually answer. But I will.
    nor do i the other 60+ judges that have ruled similarly, 30+ federal.

    But since his ruling matches all those other ones and EVERYONE since the fail of DOMA id say logically he ruled impartially. I see no logic to think otherwise unless im going to wonder about ALL judges. theres nothign that makes this one stand out.

    2.) i never go ballistic in here its a message board lol
    also regardless of what a poster is doesnt matter to me. I respect honesty and logic.
    theres nothing wrong with your question its a fair one.

    the point is your question can be asked about every single judge for every case
    so to bring this up for this case is silly when its not brought up for every other.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Actually, no on that last. It took less than four years. Before the Civil Rights Act of 1964 the constitution and federal law was silent on the issue of interracial marriage. The Loving decision came in 1967.
    Wrong. There was a California case involving racial marriage called Perez v. Sharp which was decided in 1947.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) gay marriage as been around for this long also lol
    2.) religion is meanignless to equal rights and legal marriage
    3.) see #2
    4.) nobody is redefining it the MAJORITY want equal rights.
    5.) sorry tons of conservatives also want equal rights too
    6 &7.) your meaningless opinion that has nothing to do with equal rights and legal marriage
    8.) see #2
    9.) also meaningless to the topic
    10.) factually false since gay marriage existed before our great great great grandparents were even around
    11.) i agree wow is right, wow that you think any of that matters to equal rights and legal marriage in this country.
    Wait, your saying Gay marriage has been around for millilenia ? And has been accepted on a large scale as a normal and ethical alternative to Conventional definitions of marriage ?

    Lol.....Please, provide some data to support your claims.

    And my post wasn't about "eaual rights".

    Its about societal evolution and how regardless of Religion, Race, Culture ot Nationality, the definition of marriage has always been consistent.

    A man and a women.

    Its also about how different millenia old societies, seperated by Ocean and Land evolved their own set of ethics and morals.

    And even though they had no contact, they all reached a Consensus on what was most beneficial for their group.

    And it was a distinct definition of Marriage between a man and a women.

    Now, a minority, a small activist minority is forcing their definition of Marriage on the Majority.

    Forcing them to consider and accept a bastardized definition of marriage not supported by thousands of years of societal evolution.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Wait, your saying Gay marriage has been around for millilenia ? And has been accepted on a large scale as a normal and ethical alternative to Conventional definitions of marriage ?

    Lol.....Please, provide some data to support your claims.

    And my post wasn't about "eaual rights".

    Its about societal evolution and how regardless of Religion, Race, Culture ot Nationality, the definition of marriage has always been consistent.

    A man and a women.

    Its also about how different millenia old societies, seperated by Ocean and Land evolved their own set of ethics and morals.

    And even though they had no contact, they all reached a Consensus on what was most beneficial for their group.

    And it was a distinct definition of Marriage between a man and a women.

    Now, a minority, a small activist minority is forcing their definition of Marriage on the Majority.

    Forcing them to consider and accept a bastardized definition of marriage not supported by thousands of years of societal evolution.

    History has shown us countless times that great societies never die by the sword of a foe, but rather, they fall on their own sword.


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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Wrong. There was a California case involving racial marriage called Perez v. Sharp which was decided in 1947.
    Thanks for confirming my point. If you've been following the thread you'd see what I mean.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    1.)Wait, your saying Gay marriage has been around for millilenia ?
    2.) And has been accepted on a large scale as a normal and ethical alternative to Conventional definitions of marriage ?
    3.)Lol.....Please, provide some data to support your claims.
    4.)And my post wasn't about "eaual rights".
    5.)Its about societal evolution and how regardless of Religion, Race, Culture ot Nationality, the definition of marriage has always been consistent.
    A man and a women.

    6.)Its also about how different millenia old societies, seperated by Ocean and Land evolved their own set of ethics and morals.
    7.) And even though they had no contact, they all reached a Consensus on what was most beneficial for their group.
    And it was a distinct definition of Marriage between a man and a women.

    8.) Now, a minority, a small activist minority is forcing their definition of Marriage on the Majority.
    9.) Forcing them to consider and accept a bastardized definition of marriage not supported by thousands of years of societal evolution.
    1.) no "im" not saying anything, facts and history say so
    2.) also never said its been around large scale, since thier a minority it never will be nor does it matter lol
    please try to keep up
    3.) my claims are easy, the failed straw men you made up thats YOUR job not mine. Starwman wont work and will only continue in your posts failing.
    4.) whether you like it not not it factually is.
    5.) your opinion on this is meanignless to equal rights and legal marriage. This could have been said about womens, minority or religious rights at times too, its all meaningless
    6.) your opinion on this is meanignless to equal rights and legal marriage.
    7.) your opinion on this is meanignless to equal rights and legal marriage.
    8.) 100% factually false the majority of americans support equal rights, secondly nothing is FORCED on anybody and lastly majority/minority . . . wait for it . . . . is meanignless to equal rights and legal marriage
    9.) sorry there is no force to accept or consider what your opinion of equal rights is.

    let me know when you have somethign factual and relevant to equal rights and legal marriage, please and thank you
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    I'm confused, Agent. You're saying gay marriage has been around for years, going back generations? Where?

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm confused, Agent. You're saying gay marriage has been around for years, going back generations? Where?
    again, I dont say it, history and facts do.

    theres records of gay marriage existing throughout deep history. Posters have posted links to this info many times, usually when somebody tries to sell the lie its brand new. The best part is it doesnt matter that they are factually wrong or even if they were right, neither of them mean anythign to equal rights and legal marriage

    history
    tradition
    religion
    morals
    ethics
    feelings
    sin
    etc etc are all meanings to equal rights and legal marriage, they have no impact. All the strawmen fail over and over again
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