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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No need, the "protections" you claim are not there to amend.
    weird 30+ federal judges disagree with you
    guess they got it all wrong and we should just go by your opinions that you cant support lol
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    translation: you cant defend the illogical claim. Thanks we knew that.
    It's your thread... YOU find my answer.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

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    I notice that you did away with your signature. Glad I had a part in showing everyone just how inconsistent you were with that whole "equality human rights? nonsense you were spitting out.


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    also its STILL in my picture just like before further showing how your lies had ZERO impact and your assumption is a complete failure lol.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    It's your thread... YOU find my answer.
    I saw them none of the defend your illogical claim hence people asking you multiple times.
    Now if you would please defend it and support it with logic
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    So thousands of years of Social precedent that transcended Culture, Religion and Nationality gets ignored because a small minority want to redefine marriage ?

    You libs are a walking Contradiction. Youll accept evolution on a biological scale but not on a societal scale.

    Societies and cultures and religions didn't just one day deem Homosexuality destructive because they were innately hateful.

    Societies evolved to support a standard of morality that benefits the Group as a whole.

    And you guys cant blame religion either.

    If you're an atheist religion is just another form of Control. A higher Governing body.


    The idea that Marriage as defined as union between a man and a woman has survived for millenia, only to be redefined by a small activist minority.

    Wow.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    1.)So thousands of years of Social precedent that transcended Culture
    2.) Religion
    3.)and Nationality gets ignored
    4.)because a small minority want to redefine marriage ?
    5.)You libs are a walking Contradiction. Youll accept evolution on a biological scale but not on a societal scale.
    6.)Societies and cultures and religions didn't just one day deem Homosexuality destructive because they were innately hateful.
    7.) Societies evolved to support a standard of morality that benefits the Group as a whole.
    8.)And you guys cant blame religion either.
    9.) If you're an atheist religion is just another form of Control. A higher Governing body.
    10.) The idea that Marriage as defined as union between a man and a woman has survived for millenia, only to be redefined by a small activist minority.
    11.) Wow.
    1.) gay marriage as been around for this long also lol
    2.) religion is meanignless to equal rights and legal marriage
    3.) see #2
    4.) nobody is redefining it the MAJORITY want equal rights.
    5.) sorry tons of conservatives also want equal rights too
    6 &7.) your meaningless opinion that has nothing to do with equal rights and legal marriage
    8.) see #2
    9.) also meaningless to the topic
    10.) factually false since gay marriage existed before our great great great grandparents were even around
    11.) i agree wow is right, wow that you think any of that matters to equal rights and legal marriage in this country.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    weird 30+ federal judges disagree with you
    guess they got it all wrong and we should just go by your opinions that you cant support lol
    And the other 3200+ federal judges don't count in your book? Of course they don't, that doesn't feed into your script.

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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    I saw them none of the defend your illogical claim hence people asking you multiple times.
    Now if you would please defend it and support it with logic
    Here's part of the ruling: I'd say the guy is knee deep in the marriage controversy and should have recused himself. IMHO

    I am aware that a large number of Oregonians, perhaps even a majority, have religious or moral objections to expanding the definition of civil marriage (and thereby expanding the benefits and rights that accompany marriage) to gay and lesbian families. It was' these same objections that led to the passage of Measure 36 in 2004. Generations of Americans, my own included, were raised in a world in which homosexuality was believed to be a moral perversion, a mental disorder, or a mortal sin. I remember that one of the more popular playground games of my childhood was called "smear the queer" and it was played with great zeal and without a moment's thought to today' s political correctness. On a darker level, that same worldview led to an environment of cruelty, violence, and self-loathing. It was but 1986 when the United States Supreme Court justified, on the basis of a "millennia of moral teaching," the imprisonment of gay men and lesbian women who engaged in consensual sexual acts. Bowers, 478 U.S. at 197 (Burger, C.J., concurring), overruled by Lawrence, 539 U.S. at 578. Even today I am reminded of the legacy that we have bequeathed today' s generation when my son looks dismissively at the sweater I bought him for Christmas and, with a roll of his eyes, says "dad ... that is so gay."

    It is not surprising then that many of us raised with such a world view would wish to protect our beliefs and our families by turning to the ballot box to enshrine in law those traditions we have come to value. But just as the Constitution protects the expression of these moral viewpoints, it equally protects the minority from being diminished by them.

    It is at times difficult to see past the shrillness of the debate. Accusations of religious bigotry and banners reading "God Hates Fags" make for a messy democracy and, at times, test the First Amendment resolve of both sides. At the core of the Equal Protection Clause, however, there exists a foundational belief that certain rights should be shielded from the barking crowds; that certain rights are subject to ownership by all and not the stake hold of popular trend or shifting majorities.

    My decision will not be the final word on this subject, but on this issue of marriage I am struck more by our similarities than our differences. I believe that if we can look for a moment past gender and sexuality, we can see in these plaintiffs nothing more or less than our own families. Families who we would expect our Constitution to protect, if not exalt, in equal measure. With discernment we see not shadows lurking in closets or the stereotypes of what was once believed; rather, we see families committed to the common purpose of love, devotion, and service to the greater community.

    Where will this all lead? I know that many suggest we are going down a slippery slope that will have no moral boundaries. To those who truly harbor such fears, I can only say this: Let us look less to the sky to see what might fall; rather, let us look to each other ... and rise.

    BTW: if this goes unchallenged, He and his domestic partner will indeed benefit from his ruling. Exactly a reason to recuse.
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And the other 3200+ judges don't count in your book? Of course they don't, that doesn't feed into your script.
    are you telling me 3200+ judges have recently ruled that marriage is not a right and the 14th doesnt apply in america?
    please list those cases we'll wait

    your post fails again
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    Re: Judge throws out Pennsylvania's ban on gay marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    im competely 100% consistent and you failed every time
    also its STILL in my picture just like before further showing how your lies had ZERO impact and your assumption is a complete failure lol.

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    Yeah yeah.. But you cannot be pro-choice and still be for human rights.. Plus near as I can tell you do not support polygamy marriage -or- incestuous marriage. Doesn't seem consistent to me if this is the case, unless of course you do support those other types of consensual marriage? As to pro human rights, well that whole pro-choice thingy kinda slaps in the face of that mantra.. And THAT is factually correct.


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