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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    That is strange. I've never heard that before.
    I was baffled myself.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I never can understand the logic when someone like you says that Win8 is "flat out unusable for business". You do understand, don't you, that Win8 is nothing more than an improved and enhanced Win7? If Win7 is usable for business, then it's illogical to say that Win8 is unusable. The same is true with your statement about Win8 being a the "#########" desktop OS available. If Win 7 is a good OS, Win8 is too...only it's better. It's a move toward the future of computing. And, in regard to Office...MS is making changes to the way that software works to make it more compatible and useful for mobile environments. This is right in line with their future goals of making their OS and their software usable across the whole range of digital devices.

    And, for sure, competitors will come up with their alternatives. But they will have a hard time at it. Google probably has the best chances, but I don't think they will really hurt MS much. Especially in the business market.
    Absolute rubbish. Win 8 is not an improved enhanced version of win 7. There are no improvements, no enhancements. Look, they screwed the pooch with business when they went to win 7. Up until then the windows standard was set. No matter the version the user knew where to look for things and how to use the OS with a minimum of input. But then in 7 MS decided to change everything around, obfuscated the file system, and plain made a mess of things. The ONLY reason 7 was eventually adopted were the aftermarket fixes available that returned the OS to something usable like win XP.

    It is, with win 8, now the crappiest desktop available. The problem is, there are so few alternatives for the novice. They're just stuck with whatever comes with the box. And BS about MS Office. They are simply trying to keep a hold of that market. As I said, it used to be their number one moneymaker. Years ago it reached software bloat stage, where all the features users needed were already there. There was no onus on the consumer to buy another copy, ever. So, they broke the old copies with a new OS.

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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I'm thinking that you don't know much about computers. Maybe that's why you are still using XP.

    So it goes.
    Careful with that. One might suggest YOU don't know much about computers because you stuck with the inferior OS (win 8) the machine came with.

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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I'm thinking that you don't know much about computers. Maybe that's why you are still using XP.

    So it goes.
    If you don't like the interface, you don't like the interface. Cosmetics are a huge issue with Win8.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Careful with that. One might suggest YOU don't know much about computers because you stuck with the inferior OS (win 8) the machine came with.
    Oh...I am confident. You see, my computer didn't "come" with Win8. I built it in January 2012...months before Win8 was released. I installed Win7 on it. That also wasn't the first computer I've build...only the last one. I spent $3500 on the components with the intention that it'll last me 5+ years before I might be compelled to build a new one. In October 2012, when Win8 was released, I bought that OS for $40, installed it and have been happy with it ever since.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Absolute rubbish. Win 8 is not an improved enhanced version of win 7. There are no improvements, no enhancements.
    The fact that Win8 runs on mobile devices is a huge improvement by itself, not withstanding the many other enhancements that come along with Win8. Your claim is absolute rubbish.

    Look, they screwed the pooch with business when they went to win 7. Up until then the windows standard was set. No matter the version the user knew where to look for things and how to use the OS with a minimum of input. But then in 7 MS decided to change everything around, obfuscated the file system, and plain made a mess of things. The ONLY reason 7 was eventually adopted were the aftermarket fixes available that returned the OS to something usable like win XP.
    The people who run large corps don't care if their employees have to click somewhere else to run something or learn a new file system. And as far as a "Windows standard" being set, nothing could be further from the truth. MS has no interest in setting any OS standard. They want to keep updating the OS so they can keep selling new products.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    If you don't like the interface, you don't like the interface. Cosmetics are a huge issue with Win8.
    Sure...I agree with that.

    However, just because one doesn't like the interface it doesn't follow that the OS doesn't work, is inferior or is a piece of crap. It just means you don't like the way it looks. On the other hand, even if you don't like the tile interface, you don't ever have to see it or use it if you don't want to. Win8 also includes that good old, familiar desktop interface that any traditional windows user should be perfectly comfortable with. Of course, there is that issue with the Start Button. I know some people just can't bear to be without that. MS knows this, as well. That's why the next update is slated to bring that Start Button back. Personally, I never used the Start Button in Win7 so the absence of it in Win8 was no big deal for me.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Sure...I agree with that.

    However, just because one doesn't like the interface it doesn't follow that the OS doesn't work, is inferior or is a piece of crap. It just means you don't like the way it looks. On the other hand, even if you don't like the tile interface, you don't ever have to see it or use it if you don't want to. Win8 also includes that good old, familiar desktop interface that any traditional windows user should be perfectly comfortable with. Of course, there is that issue with the Start Button. I know some people just can't bear to be without that. MS knows this, as well. That's why the next update is slated to bring that Start Button back. Personally, I never used the Start Button in Win7 so the absence of it in Win8 was no big deal for me.
    Interface is everything when it comes to an operating system. That is what the last 25 years of computer operating systems have been about. If the interface doesn't work, the product doesn't work.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Interface is everything when it comes to an operating system. That is what the last 25 years of computer operating systems have been about.
    Not even close. I understand why non-technical end-users believe that to be true, but it's not

    If the interface doesn't work, the product doesn't work.
    Win8 works. You may not like it, but it works.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Not even close. I understand why non-technical end-users believe that to be true, but it's not



    Win8 works. You may not like it, but it works.
    Interface is what operating systems have been developing since DOS. Not to mention, Win 9 comes out next year. They are openly saying they are moving away from Win 8.

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