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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Patches are not "transition layers". They are usually newer versions of existing DLL's
    Usually doesn't cut it for me.

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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I agree with what you said except the part about Win8 being directed at consumers and it being an attempt to get them to change the way they use their personal devices

    Instead, MS has recognized that consumers have already changed the way they use their devices. Win8 was designed to help businesses change the way they use technology by making it easier for them to modify and enhance their existing applications so that they work on mobile devices.
    Well, yes. I agree with you. Except MS wants people to get away from using two or three different OS's across their devices and they want their Windows OS to have the same look and feel across all those devices.

    The only disappointment I have with using Win8 on my desktop...and it's more directed at monitor manufacturers...is the lack of affordable touch screen monitors. I don't have a lot of money, so I can't get a good 27" touch screen monitor for my setup. I'd love to have that, though.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Well, yes. I agree with you. Except MS wants people to get away from using two or three different OS's across their devices and they want their Windows OS to have the same look and feel across all those devices.
    Yes, the ability to run apps on multiple platforms will benefit the consumer end of MS's sales. However, IMO the main motivation is to keep their business customers (their biggest source of revenue) from moving over to other platforms. Making it easier for businesses to extend existing apps onto mobile devices instead of having to re-write those apps to run on a new (mobile compatible) OS makes Win8 very attractive to business.

    The only disappointment I have with using Win8 on my desktop...and it's more directed at monitor manufacturers...is the lack of affordable touch screen monitors. I don't have a lot of money, so I can't get a good 27" touch screen monitor for my setup. I'd love to have that, though.
    True. Unless you run an app that somehow benefits from being run from a touch screen (ex Photoshop, music production, etc) there is little reason for a consumer to upgrade to Win8. MS is betting that the cost of touch enabled interfaces will drop, and given the increasing use of touch technology, it's probably a good bet
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Yes, yes it is. Especially when you can't even get the patches, as evidenced by pages and pages of forum complaints on Microsoft's forums.
    I am speaking from my experiences with Windows 8. If you are having problems, address them.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    A patch is a translation layer most likely, that slows the already over-bloated software down even more.
    My Windows 8 PCs are not operating slowly. As I said before, my experience with Windows 8 hasnt been like this.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    A patch is a translation layer most likely, that slows the already over-bloated software down even more.
    I'm thinking that you don't know much about computers. Maybe that's why you are still using XP.

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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I'm thinking that you don't know much about computers. Maybe that's why you are still using XP.

    So it goes.
    I did say most likely. I'm not claiming it is that way, and it was obviously an opinion.

    The way there are subroutines like spiderwebs in their OS, I can't imaging a complete rewrite being done my Microsoft. The end result I've seen over the years is the code is rarely optimized anymore, they rely on the speed of the CPU, and most people don't notice.

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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I'm thinking that you don't know much about computers. Maybe that's why you are still using XP.

    So it goes.
    I'm still using XP because I'm not willing to experiment with money, and it works fine for me. Does everything I need to do.

    I haven't kept up with computers like I used to, but I still know more than most. I don't like the way they started changing how advanced access works starting with Vista.

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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Maybe China could write its own OS.
    If they could why did they bothered with XP till now?
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    There is very little difference between Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 update 1 when it comes to interface. What gives Windows 8.1 the edge over Windows 7, is the lower footprint and certain features that are much easier to use. For example Windows 8.1 search function is brilliant.

    Now if you have a touch screen then Windows 8.1 comes into its own, there is no doubt about that, but calling it a failure on the desktop and hence business scene is beyond idiotic with the changes they have made since launch. The real issue are people who are stuck in their ways or believe the idiotic pro Apple reviewers that slaughtered Windows 8 but have said little about 8.1 update 1.... because most of the issues that people complained about at the release have actually been fixed. And the next update will bring back the start menu in the sameish format as Windows 7, but with interactive tiles... but I doubt that would shut up the anti-Windows people in the press.

    I mean how can Microsoft or anyone compete against the Cult of Apple, when yesterday at the Surface Pro 3 launch event, 96% of the journalists were there with their MacBook Airs/Pros and iPads in their bags... and that some of them were already posting negative comments about the Surface Pro 3 before they had even tested it? That they before having it in their hands say that the MacBook Air is the best of the two? Damn hard to fight against such brainwashed minions and that spreads some what to the general population who read this drivel and actually believe it.

    I have clients who refuse to have Windows 8.. so I ask them if they have tried it.. and they say no. Then how on earth can they be so against Windows 8 if they have not tried it? Because they had heard bad things about it... the ignorance is massive out there.

    But this China crap is actually funny as hell. The reason that it is a security issue.. .. not that Windows 8 is insecure, but that it is so secure that installing spyware and malware to view what your people are doing, is hard as hell on a Windows 8 machine because of the built in security. Now with Windows XP it is very easy.
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