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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    China bans government use of Windows 8 - Livemint

    I think we should all follow China's lead on this one.
    I did...I went to Best Buy to purchase a new desktop about a month ago. They had on their shelves almost NO desktops. The ones they did have was Window 8. I refused to buy a W8. They said they could order one in with Windows7. So I went down the street to HH Gregg. They had ONE HP with Windows7. I bought it immediately.

    Microsoft is apparently phasing out Windows7 OS and actually I think they are forcing the world to go to those damned tablets as opposed to laptops. If it comes to that I'm done with computers.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I am still rocking XP for a couple of my computers. I like it far more than 7 or 8.
    Same here. Maybe Microsoft will figure out they screwed up, and make Windows 9 a better version of XP.

    I turned off updates a few months back, because I can't help but think MS will send an update to slow or cripple XP.

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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Windows 8 with the more recent patches isn't that bad. Once I got used to the cell phone type layouts I started liking it more.
    A patch is a translation layer most likely, that slows the already over-bloated software down even more.

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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I use my computers for CAD (engineered drawings). XP runs the program well. My experience with 7 & 8 is that CAD crashes at very random times.

    Also, XP is great for gaming. And it is energy efficient according to the Chinese government.
    Yes.

    XP is the most stable windows I have ever seen.

    Why does MS think i want to give that up?

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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The factual reason for the ban by China would be the well known NSA backdoor into the operating systems provided by Microsoft for USA intelligence Agencies.
    Yes, I forgot about reading that.

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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    I know what CAD is .

    You know xp is no longer supported by microsoft.
    Who gives a rip?

    Do you want to be supported by your parents for all your life?

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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    A lot of what you say about the business adoption cycle is correct. However, 10 years is a long time. Time enough for competitors to come up with something more compelling. MS has moved to a two year DEV cycle. That's right two years. Sinofsky and Ballmer screwed the MS brand and may have sunk them good.

    Win 8 is flat out unusable for business. It's also the ****tiest desktop OS available. They will lose the OS market altogether if they don't send this crap the way of winMe. The big problem MS has right now is Office. People don't need any more features, they don't need a new version. Not to mention the freeware alternatives are many and mature - they work just as well. At one time the majority of MS's money came from Office sales.
    I never can understand the logic when someone like you says that Win8 is "flat out unusable for business". You do understand, don't you, that Win8 is nothing more than an improved and enhanced Win7? If Win7 is usable for business, then it's illogical to say that Win8 is unusable. The same is true with your statement about Win8 being a the "#########" desktop OS available. If Win 7 is a good OS, Win8 is too...only it's better. It's a move toward the future of computing. And, in regard to Office...MS is making changes to the way that software works to make it more compatible and useful for mobile environments. This is right in line with their future goals of making their OS and their software usable across the whole range of digital devices.

    And, for sure, competitors will come up with their alternatives. But they will have a hard time at it. Google probably has the best chances, but I don't think they will really hurt MS much. Especially in the business market.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    No...MS didn't shoot itself in the head with Win8.

    Talking about corporations using or not using Win8 is irrelevant. MS knows that business use of a new OS never happens quickly. It didn't happen quickly with XP or Win7...it won't happen quickly with Win8. The fact is, Win8 is aimed directly at the consumer. MS's aim is to change the way people use their personal computing devices...from phones to tablets, laptops and pc's. They want people to get used to an OS that has the same look and feel across all those devices. But they know that'll take time. It's not a problem for them.

    Businesses are still slowly working on switching to Win7. Win7 is also used by massive numbers of consumers. The consumers who stop using XP will be switching to Win8...some to Win7. No problem for MS...they sell their OS's either way.

    All MS has to do...in fact, all they ARE doing...is to add content and refine their Win8/Win9, etc., direction. Make improvements. Add content and capabilities. Change the way people use their computers. Cortana is one of those capabilities...kinect is another. In 10 years, more people will be using Win8/Win9 than Win7 and corporations will be bringing up the rear...slowly changing...as they normally do.
    I agree with what you said except the part about Win8 being directed at consumers and it being an attempt to get them to change the way they use their personal devices

    Instead, MS has recognized that consumers have already changed the way they use their devices. Win8 was designed to help businesses change the way they use technology by making it easier for them to modify and enhance their existing applications so that they work on mobile devices.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    A patch is a translation layer most likely, that slows the already over-bloated software down even more.
    Patches are not "transition layers". They are usually newer versions of existing DLL's
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Yes, yes it is. Especially when you can't even get the patches, as evidenced by pages and pages of forum complaints on Microsoft's forums.
    We don't put it in unless we have no choice.
    But they did put out a pitiful product.

    It is a problem for them, otherwise they wouldn't be backtracking so hard on the things people have complained about since W8 first previewed.

    Windows 8 was terrible. Everyone knows it.

    Add capabilities like an easy to find power button, boot to desktop and a start menu...

    Now if they could only do something about how terrible their upgrading process has turned out to be...

    Not Windows 8. Windows 9, maybe, but not Windows 8. Windows 8 is going the way of ME and Vista and rightfully so.
    Well, I'm going to pretty much dismiss everything in your post because I'm thinking that no matter how much truth and logic I present, you won't change your mind. It's made up. shrug... That's fine for you.

    But I will address two things you said:

    1. Problems getting patches.

    I've had no problems getting patches or upgrades to my Win8x OS. I simply read and follow instructions...run the procedure...and BANG!...it's done. Easy, painfree and it works. I'm thinking these "pages and pages of forum complaints" are from a combination of diehard Winh8ters, Apple fanboys jumping on the Winh8t bandwagon and idiots who should probably spend their money on Apple products so they don't have to think about what they are doing.

    2. In 10 years it won't be Win8.

    That is true. And in 10 years, it won't be Win9, either. But whatever the latest OS is then, it will be the direct descendant of Win8. It'll have remnants of Win7, Win8, Win9...and newer features and capabilities that those others don't have right now.
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