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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

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    yep, slightly before my time, at least schoolwise. we did borrow a TRS80 from the school once when i was a kid, though, and i took a class to learn how to program it. mostly, i used it to play B52 Bomber and Oregon trail.

    our high school was equipped with a lab of Tandy 1000s. that meant GWBasic and Turbo Pascal with a healthy portion of King's Quest and Space Quest during study hall.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    China bans government use of Windows 8 - Livemint
    I was curious as well as to how the product was energy-saving.
    I think the energy savings is due to not turning on the computer with no OS on it.

    You know, XP is a little old now, 7 & 8 are fine. And a little know secret is that Vista is fine also, after all the service packs.
    I think China may go back to Windows 3.1.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Which company in its profit driven mind would do that to billion consumers?
    Maybe China could write its own OS.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I think the energy savings is due to not turning on the computer with no OS on it.

    You know, XP is a little old now, 7 & 8 are fine. And a little know secret is that Vista is fine also, after all the service packs.
    I think China may go back to Windows 3.1.
    They can use Mosaic as their web browser.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    No...MS didn't shoot itself in the head with Win8.

    Talking about corporations using or not using Win8 is irrelevant. MS knows that business use of a new OS never happens quickly. It didn't happen quickly with XP or Win7...it won't happen quickly with Win8. The fact is, Win8 is aimed directly at the consumer. MS's aim is to change the way people use their personal computing devices...from phones to tablets, laptops and pc's. They want people to get used to an OS that has the same look and feel across all those devices. But they know that'll take time. It's not a problem for them.

    Businesses are still slowly working on switching to Win7. Win7 is also used by massive numbers of consumers. The consumers who stop using XP will be switching to Win8...some to Win7. No problem for MS...they sell their OS's either way.

    All MS has to do...in fact, all they ARE doing...is to add content and refine their Win8/Win9, etc., direction. Make improvements. Add content and capabilities. Change the way people use their computers. Cortana is one of those capabilities...kinect is another. In 10 years, more people will be using Win8/Win9 than Win7 and corporations will be bringing up the rear...slowly changing...as they normally do.
    A lot of what you say about the business adoption cycle is correct. However, 10 years is a long time. Time enough for competitors to come up with something more compelling. MS has moved to a two year DEV cycle. That's right two years. Sinofsky and Ballmer screwed the MS brand and may have sunk them good.

    Win 8 is flat out unusable for business. It's also the ****tiest desktop OS available. They will lose the OS market altogether if they don't send this crap the way of winMe. The big problem MS has right now is Office. People don't need any more features, they don't need a new version. Not to mention the freeware alternatives are many and mature - they work just as well. At one time the majority of MS's money came from Office sales.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I think the energy savings is due to not turning on the computer with no OS on it.

    You know, XP is a little old now, 7 & 8 are fine. And a little know secret is that Vista is fine also, after all the service packs.
    I think China may go back to Windows 3.1.
    I personally don't want to work with a work in progress. XP is stable. It runs my programs well that I need for work. I can't say the same for 7 or 8. We did an office downgrade for our new computers because they were having issues. Put them on XP, all is good.

    7 & 8 have their place. And when they get their 3rd service pack, maybe then they will be a better fit for me. Right now, they aren't the product I need. I am generally an early adopter on computer hardware. Computer software...not so much.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    I think the energy savings is due to not turning on the computer with no OS on it.

    You know, XP is a little old now, 7 & 8 are fine. And a little know secret is that Vista is fine also, after all the service packs.
    I think China may go back to Windows 3.1.
    Not really, energy savings comes from not having a ton of attached devices and not having a 1000w power supply running on your desktop. Games are the real power suckers.

    Vista was never fine and 8 is unusable for anything but a mobile device.

    If China goes back that far they'd use 3.11 (Windows for Workgroups). It actually wasn't too bad, as long as you replaced the default progman.

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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    No...MS didn't shoot itself in the head with Win8.

    Talking about corporations using or not using Win8 is irrelevant. MS knows that business use of a new OS never happens quickly. It didn't happen quickly with XP or Win7...it won't happen quickly with Win8. The fact is, Win8 is aimed directly at the consumer. MS's aim is to change the way people use their personal computing devices...from phones to tablets, laptops and pc's. They want people to get used to an OS that has the same look and feel across all those devices. But they know that'll take time. It's not a problem for them.
    yet the consumer PC market has slumped to an all time low as individuals most away from laptops and desktops to tablets and phones. A lot of the slump is attributed to windows 8, however there is another market which is the tablet market pushing laptops out.

    Talking about businesses is not irrelevant since that is the majority of their businesses. actually windows XP took off like a bang and so did windows 7. windows 7 was the first OS that major corporations switched to and most PC users switched to after xp.

    1. microsoft forced the upgrad by killing of xp support, but windows 7 was just that good. windows vista wasn't that great and so corproate america didn't bite to many issues.

    Businesses are still slowly working on switching to Win7. Win7 is also used by massive numbers of consumers. The consumers who stop using XP will be switching to Win8...some to Win7. No problem for MS...they sell their OS's either way.
    slowly? almost all businesses are running 7 now. very few have not switched. unless it is a mom and pop shop that have their 10 year old accounting system that they refuse to upgrade.

    All MS has to do...in fact, all they ARE doing...is to add content and refine their Win8/Win9, etc., direction. Make improvements. Add content and capabilities. Change the way people use their computers. Cortana is one of those capabilities...kinect is another. In 10 years, more people will be using Win8/Win9 than Win7 and corporations will be bringing up the rear...slowly changing...as they normally do.
    They need to do more than that because i know for a fact that i will never install windown 8 or windows 9 on any PC i have or ever get. i have a copy of windows 7 professional and until windows comes up with an operating system that works just as well and just as fast and just as user efficient i won't switch.

    almost everyone i know and speak to hate windows 8 with a passion.
    corporate america has rejected it and microsoft has taken a huge hit.

    they tried to put a tablet made OS and stick it on a PC and it failed.

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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Not really, energy savings comes from not having a ton of attached devices and not having a 1000w power supply running on your desktop. Games are the real power suckers.
    That was a joke, not turning on. Most systems will run on a 600w PSU, 1000w is only for the most high end, expensive systems, otherwise it's overkill.
    Vista was never fine and 8 is unusable for anything but a mobile device.
    Vista works fine for me, never had a problem. There was a problem with device drivers when it first came out, but that was taken care of. I use 7 & 8 everyday, both are very stable. Obviously, 8 still gets patches, so will continue to improve.

    If China goes back that far they'd use 3.11 (Windows for Workgroups). It actually wasn't too bad, as long as you replaced the default progman.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Windows 8 with the more recent patches isn't that bad.
    Yes, yes it is. Especially when you can't even get the patches, as evidenced by pages and pages of forum complaints on Microsoft's forums.
    Quote Originally Posted by MACS-24 View Post
    I'd go along with every company's IT banning it. It seems to be a productivity killer. I don't know many large corps with touch-screen workstations. Stupid move by MS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    No...MS didn't shoot itself in the head with Win8.
    But they did put out a pitiful product.

    The fact is, Win8 is aimed directly at the consumer. MS's aim is to change the way people use their personal computing devices...from phones to tablets, laptops and pc's. They want people to get used to an OS that has the same look and feel across all those devices. But they know that'll take time. It's not a problem for them.
    It is a problem for them, otherwise they wouldn't be backtracking so hard on the things people have complained about since W8 first previewed.

    Windows 8 was terrible. Everyone knows it.

    All MS has to do...in fact, all they ARE doing...is to add content and refine their Win8/Win9, etc., direction. Make improvements. Add content and capabilities.
    Add capabilities like an easy to find power button, boot to desktop and a start menu...

    Now if they could only do something about how terrible their upgrading process has turned out to be...

    In 10 years, more people will be using Win8/Win9 than Win7
    Not Windows 8. Windows 9, maybe, but not Windows 8. Windows 8 is going the way of ME and Vista and rightfully so.
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