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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I've never gone to the Start Button to launch my programs. Perhaps you do and perhaps you have difficulty learning to use a different method. I don't know. But I got to ask you...if you have a cell phone, does it have a Start Button? If not, how do you manage to launch an app?

    And, yeah...let's take a good look at what these "smarter" people have to say, eh?



    1. Does this person seriously think Win8 is incapable of content production and multitasking? Here's a screenshot of what I have on one of my monitors at this moment. (I'm typing this post on my other monitor)

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    Based on my experience, Raluca Budiu doesn't know what the hell he/she is talking about.
    Budiu talks about content production as if that were the concern of most business users. It's not. For example, it's not a major concern for banks.

    2. So what if content consumption can easily be done on tablets and phones? Does that mean I shouldn't be able to do it on my PC?



    Jacob Neilsen makes the same stupid mistake that so many others make: They think Win8 is the tiled interface. My screenshot shows him to be, at best, just plain wrong and, at worst, shortsighted or deliberately misleading to those who might actually want to know what Win8 is all about.
    Even worse is his complain is that "It has a misleading name!!" WAHHHH!!!!
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Again showing you know nothing of the business SW environment. Just to clue you in, the main reason most admins won't let the mobile devices anywhere near their network is security. It's 1991 for mobile device security and too damn easy to exploit.
    So now the problem is not re-training employees, it's security?

    And security is enhanced if the mobile devices run the same OS.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So now the problem is not re-training employees, it's security?

    And security is enhanced if the mobile devices run the same OS.
    No, try to follow along. That's the problem with MOBILE devices. And no, your mobile devices aren't secure running any commercial OS. A simple Yagi and a few off the shelf script kiddie programs is all that is necessary to hack the hell out of your mobile devices.

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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, try to follow along. That's the problem with MOBILE devices. And no, your mobile devices aren't secure running any commercial OS. A simple Yagi and a few off the shelf script kiddie programs is all that is necessary to hack the hell out of your mobile devices.
    Yes, there are security issues with mobile devices. There are security issues with any device that connects to a network.

    But in spite of those issues, businesses believe the benefits outweigh the costs.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, there are security issues with mobile devices. There are security issues with any device that connects to a network.

    But in spite of those issues, businesses believe the benefits outweigh the costs.
    Again you demonstrate you don't know what you're talking about here. None of that is true in the way you imply. Businesses that must use mobile devices do so knowing they have to live with the vulnerability. Security on those devices is still very primitive.

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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You need to bone up. Yes, they say they're bringing back the start button, but they aren't. It'll just be a button they throw on there that lacks the functionality of the old start menu.
    Perhaps YOU need to bone up.

    Here is a picture of what the new Start Button will look like:

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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Again you demonstrate you don't know what you're talking about here. None of that is true in the way you imply. Businesses that must use mobile devices do so knowing they have to live with the vulnerability.
    No business "must use" mobile devices. They do so because the benefits of doing so outweigh the risks.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I've never gone to the Start Button to launch my programs. Perhaps you do and perhaps you have difficulty learning to use a different method. I don't know. But I got to ask you...if you have a cell phone, does it have a Start Button? If not, how do you manage to launch an app?

    And, yeah...let's take a good look at what these "smarter" people have to say, eh?



    1. Does this person seriously think Win8 is incapable of content production and multitasking? Here's a screenshot of what I have on one of my monitors at this moment. (I'm typing this post on my other monitor)

    Attachment 67166925

    Based on my experience, Raluca Budiu doesn't know what the hell he/she is talking about.

    2. So what if content consumption can easily be done on tablets and phones? Does that mean I shouldn't be able to do it on my PC?



    Jacob Neilsen makes the same stupid mistake that so many others make: They think Win8 is the tiled interface. My screenshot shows him to be, at best, just plain wrong and, at worst, shortsighted or deliberately misleading to those who might actually want to know what Win8 is all about.
    Absolutely hysterical post.

    You compare a desktop for productivity to a phone. Which is exactly why Raluca Budiu's comment is so important. You say an expert in useability doesn't know what they are talking about and you base your opinion off your own experience and nothing else.

    Hard to reason with pictures of a desktop...oh wait...it is a picture. Not function.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Have a good vacation weekend. I am off.
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    Re: China bans government use of Windows 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Absolutely hysterical post.

    You compare a desktop for productivity to a phone. Which is exactly why Raluca Budiu's comment is so important. You say an expert in useability doesn't know what they are talking about and you base your opinion off your own experience and nothing else.

    Hard to reason with pictures of a desktop...oh wait...it is a picture. Not function.
    You totally missed my points. Guess I'll have to repeat myself in baby language.

    1. I didn't compare PC productivity with a phone. I asked you if you had a problem opening apps on your phone without your beloved Start Button.

    2. An expert in usability...who doesn't know what he can do with what he is using...isn't much of an expert in my mind. Especially when my experiences directly contradict his statements...as my picture illustrated.
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