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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Yes, they are. That is why you are issued a marriage license.

    To people of the big 3 religions, there is no such thing as a nonreligious marriage.
    Then those people of the "big 3 religions" need to get over themselves (at least the ones who actually believe that "there is no such thing as a nonreligious marriage") because those people would be wrong. They don't own marriage.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) nope they arent endorsing it they are simply protecting rights.
    endorse
    : to publicly or officially say that you support or approve of (someone or something)
    : to publicly say that you like or use (a product or service) in exchange for money
    : to write your name on the back of (a check)

    unless you mean it in some obscure way?
    No obscure meanings necessary. By issuing a license the government entity endorses the legitimacy of the act.

    2.) well since im one of those people that is factually false lol

    once again the fact remains religion has nothing to do with legal marriage, its 100% meaningless to it and equal rights.
    The big 3 religions believe God created marriage with the union of Adam and Eve.
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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Yes, they are. That is why you are issued a marriage license.



    To people of the big 3 religions, there is no such thing as a nonreligious marriage.
    Um...good for them?

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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    LMAO please repeat this dishonest, inane, hyperbolic "POST" as much as possible. I'm positive that anybody who is educated, honest and objective will laugh just as hard as i did and NONE of them will take it seriously. thanks that was hilarious!
    Ok....but if what I say is laughably untrue than please tell me why now? If this is such a significant civil rights issue why wait for public support to come out in favor? Why wasn't this issue addressed when Democrats had the house and senate and presidency just a few short uears ago? Did they just become aware that this issue existed? Why not do the right thing for the sake of doing the right thing when they became aware?

    You can voice your fake righteous indignation all you want, but the rest of is see this political stunt as the disingenuous ploy that it is.
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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post

    To people of the big 3 religions, there is no such thing as a nonreligious marriage.
    That is OK. Since there is no law against Atheists marrying, religion is not a necessity for a lawful marriage. Surely you would consider a male-female atheists marriage real...right?


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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    That is OK. Since there is no law against Atheists marrying, religion is not a necessity for a lawful marriage. Surely you would consider a male-female atheists marriage real...right?
    My wife and I are atheists and nobody gave us any grief for it when we were married.

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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    That is OK. Since there is no law against Atheists marrying, religion is not a necessity for a lawful marriage. Surely you would consider a male-female atheists marriage real...right?
    Depends.

    God didn't say a man will marry a woman. Not a man tgat believes in me will marry a woman tgat believes in me.

    BUT if they marry after an invalid divorce or some other way violate God's will, then I would say I don't view it as a valid marriage. That is their business though and no one with beliefs like mine should be required to participate or validate or recognize such marriages as such. That is why the government should be out of the marriage business all together.
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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Depends.

    God didn't say a man will marry a woman. Not a man tgat believes in me will marry a woman tgat believes in me.

    BUT if they marry after an invalid divorce or some other way violate God's will, then I would say I don't view it as a valid marriage. That is their business though and no one with beliefs like mine should be required to participate or validate or recognize such marriages as such. That is why the government should be out of the marriage business all together.
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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Oh don't fool yourself into thinking the SSM push is purely about civil rights. This is primarily a push by liberal democrats to distract from the President's failed economic, health care and foreign policies. If this was about civil rights, they would have done it decades ago. They are only pushing it now because they think the issue will get them some votes.
    That's completely silly.

    Is that why it took almost 100 yrs after the Civil War for the US to attack Jim Crow laws and truly give blacks equal rights? Up to that point, they were still treated like wnd class citizens and in some states....interracial marriage was still illegal. Why didnt all that change immediately after the Civil War?

    Because it takes time for momentum to build, for voices to be heard, for society to recognize people that they had tried to shove aside and not think about. "Why couldnt blacks and women and gays just be happy with what they had? Why cause all this trouble?" Well sorry for the inconvenience but *no one* should have to wait for a wrong to be made right when it comes to equality in the US. It took hundreds of yrs (even more) for gays to even 'come out of the closet' in society, much less start to demand their rights.
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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Which is why I am against the government endorsing any marriages as they are a creation of God in most religions.
    But they've never been a creation of any imaginary friend in the sky in secular society, which is what government represents. They have nothing to do with gods, they are a civil process binding two people together legally. Religion doesn't matter at all. You can walk down all the aisles in all the churches you want, you're not married until you get that piece of paper from the state. The religious need to get it through their heads that their religious beliefs don't make them married, the government does.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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