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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    And you keep ignoring that in 2014 there are various legal proceedings that require recognition of a family unit.
    I am not ignoring anything, I want those changed too.
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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Call it what you want, the underlying point stands.
    Yes, my underlying point stands. The government should not be involved.
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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The ultimate cop out, just declare the other side has sinister intentions and ignore any actual good they're doing.

    Politician actions change to reflect changing opinions of their constituents? Well, I never!
    So why not sooner?
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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    So why not sooner?
    Same reason as every other civil rights issue. Public opinion takes time to shift.
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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    National, legalized ss marriage is inevitable.

    Me?

    I think marriage is silly. Being legally pressured to stay with one person for the rest of your life, imo, causes more misery then joy.

    A relationship is not stronger because you are married...it's just more difficult to get out of.

    And people should be free (and, in fact, encouraged) to leave any romantic relationship the second they want to.

    I don't want to be with the wrong person AND the last thing I want is my partner staying with me mostly because it's too much work to leave.


    Having said that...any two sane, consenting adults should be able to legally marry.
    If two people are sharing expenses and/or living space, then they can have just as much difficulty leaving that situation unmarried as married. It all depends on how "civil" the people are as to how hard it is to leave the situation. If they can agree on who gets what, then it really isn't that difficult at all. It's just filing a bit more paperwork than if they aren't legally married.

    I've known some couples who have gotten divorced with really no issues, and some that had many. I've also known many people who simply broke off a non-marriage relationship, and end up in court or fighting each other for years. In fact, many of those who have children but weren't married that I know end up in court more times or at least for many more issues than those who were married with children. Divorce forces those with children to work out a base custody issue within a year or less (for a few couples, longer, but not many) due to the divorce requiring legal attention that brings up the children. When they aren't married, from what I've seen, they end up fighting over the issue for years.

    Now, I'm not saying that people should get married because of children (I'm actually against that), but I do believe that those having children should have some legal paperwork setup prior to the child being born. If we don't include child custody in this though, divorce is generally going to be more fair at least than simply splitting up, and legally could be much simpler, especially if the breakup is bad and/or there are money/responsibility issues.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    And you keep ignoring the fact that I don't want the government to recognize/regulate marriage. Even among Christians there are differences on who can get married and divorced. Up until Henry VIII marriage was regulated by social groups (i.e. families, churches, etc.) That's what it should return to.
    They recognize other legal relationships and other contracts, and marriage sets up both at once so there is really no reason why the government shouldn't be involved in marriage. Even private contracts, the government has a say in. Take medical POAs. They are limited by the government so that only one person can be legally recognized as a person's medical decision maker at a given time. We limit the age any person can enter into a contract. We limit who is recognized as legal families using either legal documents or DNA evidence (that is generally verified using legal documentation).

    The only thing really that a marriage license does (nowdays) is consolidate a whole lot of contracts that the vast majority of those who want to get married would like to have set up for them into a single document that is similar to the birth certificate or adoption paperwork.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    "Bigots" aren't what I am talking about. But, since we are on the subject, aren't you exhibiting your own bigotry by not tolerating that type of thought and speech? That is exactly what the first amendment seeks to prevent witg respect to the government. The government cannot tell people what to say or believe. That is absolutely essential for the voting process to remain fair.
    No, it's not bigotry to be intolerant of bigotry. And yes, the KKK are bigots. When you deny others equal rights for no other reason than you don't like a you don't like a group, you're a bigot. The KKK has a long history of harming others.

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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, it's not bigotry to be intolerant of bigotry. And yes, the KKK are bigots. When you deny others equal rights for no other reason than you don't like a you don't like a group, you're a bigot. The KKK has a long history of harming others.
    Of course. It isn't bigotry if you think it is ok. [/Sarcasm]
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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    1.)Yes, they are. That is why you are issued a marriage license.
    2.)To people of the big 3 religions, there is no such thing as a nonreligious marriage.
    1.) nope they arent endorsing it they are simply protecting rights.
    endorse
    : to publicly or officially say that you support or approve of (someone or something)
    : to publicly say that you like or use (a product or service) in exchange for money
    : to write your name on the back of (a check)

    unless you mean it in some obscure way?


    2.) well since im one of those people that is factually false lol

    once again the fact remains religion has nothing to do with legal marriage, its 100% meaningless to it and equal rights.
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    Re: Oregon Ruling Marks 13th Straight Gay Marriage Win

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Oh don't fool yourself into thinking the SSM push is purely about civil rights. This is primarily a push by liberal democrats to distract from the President's failed economic, health care and foreign policies. If this was about civil rights, they would have done it decades ago. They are only pushing it now because they think the issue will get them some votes.
    LMAO please repeat this dishonest, inane, hyperbolic "POST" as much as possible. I'm positive that anybody who is educated, honest and objective will laugh just as hard as i did and NONE of them will take it seriously. thanks that was hilarious!
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