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    US accuses China of cyber-espionage on American companies

    US accuses China of cyber-espionage on American companies | News | DW.DE | 19.05.2014

    The United States has indicted five Chinese military officials on cyber-espionage charges. The individuals are accused of hacking into six US companies and stealing trade secrets, the Justice Department said.
    A US grand jury on Monday filed charges against the five Chinese military personnel alleging they stole secrets from companies in the nuclear power, metals and solar products industries in order to benefit Chinese state-owned companies. The charges say the China-based alleged hackers broke into US computers to gain a competitive advantage and damage companies.
    Wake-up call'
    Holder described the charges as the first of their kind against state actors, saying they should serve as a "wake-up call."
    China rejects allegations
    The country's Foreign Ministry on Monday criticized the US indictment, saying it would "damage Sino-American cooperation and mutual trust."
    Aside from the fact that Holder is getting his moment of fame to actually look like he's doing something... China needs to be slapped on the nose. it's doing government sponsored cyber terrorism for a long time now and it's not even sorry. It doesn't even care if you know or if you don't know.

    Honestly, it's a really scary thing, this China. It's invading other nations territorial waters like it does now in Vietnam. It presses claims it has no right to. It sponsored cyber terrorism. It encourages corruption in africa by offering cheap loans to african countries so they don't take EU and USA money which has strings attached to govt reforms for democracy. It's not a good country and has no interest in fair play in a fair world. And these cyber terrorism attacks just prove it more and more.

    And ofc, they're not really the only ones. Depending on whether you believe Snowden or not:

    China says it is the victim of similar attacks from the US. The country's military is believed to be among the main targets for the US National Security Agency and US Cyber Command. News reports based on documents leaked by former intelligence contractor Edward Snowden revealed that the US for years spied on Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei.
    The US has also been accused of conducting economic espionage abroad, including spying on Brazilian oil giant Petrobras.
    And ofc the whole NSA scandal... the internet is becoming a very dangerous playground for hacking attacks between nations.

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    Re: US accuses China of cyber-espionage on American companies

    Well they are right and everyone knows it.

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    Re: US accuses China of cyber-espionage on American companies

    This is a clear case of the pot calling the kettle black.

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    Re: US accuses China of cyber-espionage on American companies

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    This is a clear case of the pot calling the kettle black.
    The major difference is that the US probably doesn't do much in the way of industrial espionage.

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    Re: US accuses China of cyber-espionage on American companies

    How do you know?

    Government is known to hate competition.


    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    The major difference is that the US probably doesn't do much in the way of industrial espionage.

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    Re: US accuses China of cyber-espionage on American companies

    There is already a thread on this subject here: http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...berspying.html.

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    The major difference is that the US probably doesn't do much in the way of industrial espionage.
    Nah, the U.S. does that too. It helps to know what other countries and their companies are developing in order to stay one step ahead. What would astonish me is if there was a major power out there that was not doing this sort of thing. Any country with the capability would almost definitely utilize it to get an edge in business or politics.
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    Re: US accuses China of cyber-espionage on American companies

    China summons US ambassador over cyberspying arrests | News | DW.DE | 20.05.2014

    China summons US ambassador over cyberspying arrests
    China's Foreign Ministry has summoned the US ambassador after the arrests of five Chinese military officers accused of hacking into American companies to steal trade secrets. Beijing denies involvement in cyberspying.

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    Re: US accuses China of cyber-espionage on American companies

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    How do you know?

    Government is known to hate competition.
    I can only presume from my informal interaction with the people involved, of which I had quite a bit. They were not, of course allowed say much, but the opinions on such activities were rather negative to the extent, that it seemed to me that the would have generally condemned espionage outside of rather narrowly defined national interest. This is not proof. Obviously. but it did form a relatively firm impression in my mind.

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    Re: US accuses China of cyber-espionage on American companies

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    There is already a thread on this subject here: http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...berspying.html.

    Nah, the U.S. does that too. It helps to know what other countries and their companies are developing in order to stay one step ahead. What would astonish me is if there was a major power out there that was not doing this sort of thing. Any country with the capability would almost definitely utilize it to get an edge in business or politics.
    The US would certainly use information of high national interest, say for a development in rocket technology or epidemic control. And as the US is set up along private production principles, the rockets would be produced by private companies. Similarly the US has used intelligence commercially, when for instance Carter made public the Persons that had been bribed by Airbus to receive a contract. But otherwise? I would doubt it as a general rule.

    But do you have any knowledge of the legality of such espionage?

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