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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I would not expect you to be able to see it. You feel this insufficiency and that is why you so like expletives, I presume.
    He's right, you're wrong.

    Nicaragua is a Great Soveriegn Nation that has beaten the American virus out of its land three times.

    Why would we want to bring it back?

    We need a large Russian base, mostly to re-arm our military for a re-occupation of Guanacaste, a guarantee (as Honduras has by the US) against invasion from the Russians, and the construction of a deep-water port on the east coast capable of handling commercial cargo en masse and provide us with the funds to build a non-mud road from the West Coast to the East Coast of our great nation.

    We need the Trans-Oceanic Canal for Economic Growth funded by China/HKND. If you can't get that, I suggest trying to yank your head out of your ass.

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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And a REAL history lesson for you.

    As I stated already, the Monroe Doctrine was not always good for Latin America. While it may have denied European imperialism in the hemisphere, it resulted in a form of US interference that Latin Americans grew to hate. To this day there's strong opposition to US interference there. Many countries were "independent" in name only, but essentially US protectorates.

    They (Latin American countries) resented U.S. involvement as YANKEE IMPERIALISM, and animosity against their large neighbor to the North grew dramatically. By the end of the 20th century, the United States would send troops of invasion to Latin America over 35 times, establishing an undisputed sphere of influence throughout the hemisphere.

    The Roosevelt Corollary and Latin America [ushistory.org]
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And what did she tell you about the Communists and the Contras who fought for Democracy (and eventually won!).
    You have absolutely no ****ing clue what you're talking about.

    You know you're making yourself look Stupid, right?

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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Why not do some real research. Do you seriously believe that Cuba and Russia were there to help the Nicaraguan people?? Did you know for example that over 400,000 people fled Nicaragua after the Communist dictatorship took control? Do you have any understanding at all of what the Communists did throughout the world??

    That you, as well as many other leftists, actually believe Cold War Wiki link propaganda is a black mark against the US education system and the ignorance of what really happened during that period.

    Here's a history lesson. Nicaragua is on page 665. http://www.germanvictims.com/wp-cont...-communism.pdf
    Dumb.

    They left because the American-funded Contra was raping and pillaging less than a year since the Sandinista junta took power.

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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Buddha C View Post
    Dumb.

    They left because the American-funded Contra was raping and pillaging less than a year since the Sandinista junta took power.
    Claiming you're part of a movement which killed over 100 million people sounds unlikely, but supporting the murder of a Nicaraguan woman who works for me suggests you really are a committed leftist. I doubt that you've ever actually been out of Jersey though.

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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Claiming you're part of a movement which killed over 100 million people sounds unlikely, but supporting the murder of a Nicaraguan woman who works for me suggests you really are a committed leftist. I doubt that you've ever actually been out of Jersey though.


    There's no point in arguing with you, you've already shown your colors and refusal to see reason.

    And I see from your answer she her family was probably in bed with Somoza, so I stand by the claim that they should be killed as a Traitor to the State and People.

    The Actual FSLN is far more forgiving than I, iirc, they even integrated sections of the contra into the national police.

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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It is huge, though it is doubtful anyone can do much about it now. It would have been wise, perhaps, for America to get involved in the canal across Nicaragua rather than the Chinese and the Russians but perhaps that was just Obama being 'flexible'. You'll see ever increasing anti American propaganda by leftists everywhere. That's always, from a historical perspective, interesting to watch.
    Again, why is it HUGE. Propaganda is not huge.

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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    A female employee of mine lost their little farm, chickens and all, and were able to escape to Costa Rica. They had nothing but lost what little they had. When the country became a democracy they were able to go back and with the money they saved were able to buy a small house (Nicaraguan style). What happened in Nicaragua was gut-wrenching and to defend it is to defend the likes of any mass murderer. The Nicaraguans are among the finest people I know.
    My wife's family, many with US citizenship, held on to some of their property and regularly return to visit and spend time.

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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    This is quite important and yet no one seems to be talking about it. I live mostly in Costa Rica but often visit Nicaragua and what's happening there is huge.



    How would George Kennan respond to Nicaragua
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Again, why is it HUGE. Propaganda is not huge.
    Certainly it is. Those people affected by propaganda will happily turn against their own country and act against its best interests. People should understand the difference between truth and propaganda but obviously don't. Buddha C and Monte obviously don't understand the difference, and there are millions of others. Do you really believe a novice like Barrack Obama would have been elected sans propaganda?

    These are the sort of people who will define the future of the United States. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB3ZaVYWRr4

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