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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Did Nicaragua invite Russia and China? If so, then that is Nicaragua's business. And, after what we did, supporting the death squads there, do you blame Nicaragua? Ron Paul called it "blowback". Bad foreign policy eventually comes back to roost.
    Very great point.
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    It was on Obama's watch. Good legacy.
    Wtf is Obama suppose to do about Nicaragua inviting China and Russia to a construction project. And why should he try to do anything?
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    This is quite important and yet no one seems to be talking about it. I live mostly in Costa Rica but often visit Nicaragua and what's happening there is huge.



    How would George Kennan respond to Nicaragua
    central and south america have been vulnerable and a security risk since the ending of the gold standard.most the worl either tied their currency to the gold dollar or was independant of it,but central and south america were heavily dependant on the gold dollar,since ending the gold standard,many south american countries went from being economic power houses to dirt poor,and it was only a matter of time before someone stepped in.even after ending the gold dollar,the us could have held its influence,rather than sitting back and watching their currencies no longer tied to the dollar fail.instead we did nothing so its only natural someone else capitalizes on our lack of effort or care.
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    You are aware of course that the Contras (Nicaraguan death death squads) were supported and funded under Ronald Reagan. Also see: Iran–Contra affair.
    Partisans on the right don't like to admit such things anymore than partisans on the left do about Clinton failings. But great point!!
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Russia's aggression is the direct result of Obama and is weak defense policies..... Let me ask everyone this: Would JFK - the democrat - have tolerated this nonsense? hell no.

    As far as China, I have no idea why they're in on this fiasco as well but I'm sure they're doing it just because they can and know Obama wont do a damn thing about it.

    Putin needs to be dealt with, however Obamy loves him too much.
    Your comparing a joint construction project between Russia and China at Nicaragua's request with Russia attempting to place nuclear weapons in Cuba a hundred miles from the US. Obama hatred clouds people's thinking.
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Obama has absolutely no idea as to what he is doing as POTUS......

    This is a ****ing idiot that has ZERO real life experience and has never been in charge of ANYTHING IN HIS LIFE other than the United States.

    What is Obama willing to do? wait until the barrel of the Russian gun is pointed at his face much like the Cuban Missile Crisis?
    Whatcha wanta do. Send the military to confront Russia's construction crew. You guys are unbelievable.
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The US did not support any "Death Squads" in Nicaragua. That was the communists in power. It was the Americans who helped free the Nicaraguan people and allowed them to have a democracy. That Cold War propaganda should stay back in the 70's and 89's where it belongs.
    Oh dear lord,


    The United States has sought to control the region of Latin America well before the Cold War. That is why U. S. Marines were involved in Nicaragua from 1910 - 1933. After the victory of the Sandinista revolution in 1979, the conflict was initially one between the U. S. and Nicaragua. The U.S.S.R. and Cuba came to the aid of Nicaragua when it was apparent the U.S. was fighting a covert war against the Sandinista government. Despite the fact that the Sandinistas won in fair elections, the U.S. continued to subvert the government, and support the Contras (many of whom were former National Guard, and who "raped, tortured, and killed unarmed civilians, including children," and who were responsible for the deaths of "groups of civilians, including pregnant women and children were burned, dismembered, blinded and beheaded)."


    That was another example where Russia was supporting the right side. The FSLN that was fighting to overthrow the dictatorship that the US was propping up.

    The Nicaraguan Revolution (Spanish: Revolución Nicaragüense or Revolución Popular Sandinista) encompassed the rising opposition to the Somoza dictatorship in the 1960s and 1970s, the campaign led by the Sandinista National Liberation Front (FSLN) to violently oust the dictatorship in 1978-79, the subsequent efforts of the FSLN to govern Nicaragua from 1979 until 1990[13] and the Contra War which was waged between the FSLN and the Contras from 1981-1990.

    Nicaraguan Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The seeds were planted during the Reagan regime.
    Didn't you just read the post before yours, #3?
    Don't you know? Obama planned this on his way from Kenya to Hawaii as a part of his master plan to rule the universe.

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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Partisans on the right don't like to admit such things anymore than partisans on the left do about Clinton failings. But great point!!
    How can it be a good point if its false? Do you have any idea at all what the Communists did in Nicaragua? Ever visited there or talked to the people?

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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh dear lord,


    The United States has sought to control the region of Latin America well before the Cold War. That is why U. S. Marines were involved in Nicaragua from 1910 - 1933. After the victory of the Sandinista revolution in 1979, the conflict was initially one between the U. S. and Nicaragua. The U.S.S.R. and Cuba came to the aid of Nicaragua when it was apparent the U.S. was fighting a covert war against the Sandinista government. Despite the fact that the Sandinistas won in fair elections, the U.S. continued to subvert the government, and support the Contras (many of whom were former National Guard, and who "raped, tortured, and killed unarmed civilians, including children," and who were responsible for the deaths of "groups of civilians, including pregnant women and children were burned, dismembered, blinded and beheaded)."


    That was another example where Russia was supporting the right side. The FSLN that was fighting to overthrow the dictatorship that the US was propping up.

    The Nicaraguan Revolution (Spanish: Revolución Nicaragüense or Revolución Popular Sandinista) encompassed the rising opposition to the Somoza dictatorship in the 1960s and 1970s, the campaign led by the Sandinista National Liberation Front (FSLN) to violently oust the dictatorship in 1978-79, the subsequent efforts of the FSLN to govern Nicaragua from 1979 until 1990[13] and the Contra War which was waged between the FSLN and the Contras from 1981-1990.

    Nicaraguan Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Why not do some real research. Do you seriously believe that Cuba and Russia were there to help the Nicaraguan people?? Did you know for example that over 400,000 people fled Nicaragua after the Communist dictatorship took control? Do you have any understanding at all of what the Communists did throughout the world??

    That you, as well as many other leftists, actually believe Cold War Wiki link propaganda is a black mark against the US education system and the ignorance of what really happened during that period.

    Here's a history lesson. Nicaragua is on page 665. http://www.germanvictims.com/wp-cont...-communism.pdf

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