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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    They're already waging imperialistic wars of conquest like it's the 19th Century. Why shouldn't they trade and jockey for international prestige like it as well?

    Welcome to the new normal, ladies and gentlemen. Like it or not, U.S. global hegemony had its perks.
    I'm not sure why so many are referring to the 19th century as if Russia and others are looking backward. Policy makers who assume based on ideals that international organization and international rules have rendered Realpolitik obsolete or antiquated are, in fact, the ones creating dangerous foreign policy and national security blind spots. For the most part, the rules (treaties and conventions) and norms are invaluable, but they are part of a larger context that includes the balance of power and role of power (hard and soft).
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    You are aware of course that the Contras (Nicaraguan death death squads) were supported and funded under Ronald Reagan. Also see: Iran–Contra affair.
    Of course I am aware of that. I also see that it wasn't right, whether it was a Democrat or a Republican in office.
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I'm not sure why so many are referring to the 19th century as if Russia and others are looking backward. Policy makers who assume based on ideals that international organization and international rules have rendered Realpolitik obsolete or antiquated are, in fact, the ones creating dangerous foreign policy and national security blind spots. For the most part, the rules (treaties and conventions) and norms are invaluable, but they are part of a larger context that includes the balance of power and role of power (hard and soft).
    The communists love treaties and conventions because they're liars who portray their hostile takeovers as "for the workers" and insist their strategies are not world domination and global enforcement of their socioeconomic model.

    The Cuban Missile crisis is a perfect example of these communists and their military strategy....

    I'd go to war with Russia right now and stomp them out completely before they re-gain the Soviet Union.... Obama is a fool tho - he's so dumb and incompetent that he would have never seen or acknowledged the Cuban Missile crisis - and ironically he believes he's JFK - the guy is delusional. Putin found a weakness - he want's his USSR back and he's been screwing Obama in the ass to do it and Obama is too stupid to realize this.

    Obama is NOT qualified to handle situations like this - he's a socialist community organizer NOT a military dynamo.

    Obama's ignorance is a danger to not just US citizens but to our allies to boot.

    In order for the USSR to reboot they need our resources and they would love to occupy the US and steal ours, and I don't think China would mind just as long as they get their "fair share."

    The only thing stopping these asshats is the simple fact that civilians are armed and presently that is too much for these Reds to handle.
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Of course I am aware of that. I also see that it wasn't right, whether it was a Democrat or a Republican in office.
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    I agree.

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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    That you agreed with danarhea that the seeds of the current Nicaraguan problem
    were planted during the Reagan admin. with the death squads Reagan supported.
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    and this is supposed to mean what?
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    That you agreed with danarhea that the seeds of the current Nicaraguan problem
    were planted during the Reagan admin. with the death squads Reagan supported.
    Reagan supported them the same way Obama is supporting some sort of operation somewhere in the world conducted by US secret forces today.

    Presidents are mostly figureheads.

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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    More fear-mongering I see. Given how certain Americans react to Putin even discussing the idea of putting just a few troops in a few parts of Latin America distant from U.S. shores, one has to wonder how Russia feels with NATO forces and American military bases strewn along its borders.
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    My browser shows a slight increase in font size (#4) which allows me to read better. Perhaps you need to check the settings on your browser as you seem to be the only one concerned about it.
    Im pretty sure thats exactly what I said. And no, its not my browser, I know how to use mine.
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Obama has absolutely no idea as to what he is doing as POTUS......

    This is a ****ing idiot that has ZERO real life experience and has never been in charge of ANYTHING IN HIS LIFE other than the United States.

    What is Obama willing to do? wait until the barrel of the Russian gun is pointed at his face much like the Cuban Missile Crisis?
    He would not only do that, he'd see it as a sign of strength. Its how liberals do.

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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Reagan supported them the same way Obama is supporting some sort of operation somewhere in the world conducted by US secret forces today.

    Presidents are mostly figureheads.
    Not with the the number of House investigative committees in 2014.
    A different standard has been set for DEM and GOP Presidents with things like Iran/Contra and supporting Nicaraguan death squads since Reagan.
    If GOPs do it, they're Patriotic.
    If DEMs do it, GOPs politicize every little skirmish since Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize, not his fault for the timing of that either .
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