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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We havent acted nothing like Russia or China.
    Your statement is so full of baloney it's funny. One need only to know how to search on the internet to find clear evidence that we supported dictators who used death squads to murder thousands of dissenters. Here is video of the Iran-Contra hearings, for one. And Saddam Hussein? We supported him too, while it was in our interests to do so. Yea, go ahead and plug your ears and close your eyes, and say it never happened. However, no matter how much you might want to rewrite history, the evidence is still there, and always will be. You aren't going to convince anybody of something in which hard evidence is out there that shows what you are saying is pure baloney.

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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Your statement is so full of baloney it's funny. One need only to know how to search on the internet to find clear evidence that we supported dictators who used death squads to murder thousands of dissenters. Here is video of the Iran-Contra hearings, for one. And Saddam Hussein? We supported him too, while it was in our interests to do so. Yea, go ahead and plug your ears and close your eyes, and say it never happened. However, no matter how much you might want to rewrite history, the evidence is still there, and always will be. You aren't going to convince anybody of something in which hard evidence is out there that shows what you are saying is pure baloney.


    Did I ever say we didn't? However, we never did that and worse on the same level as Russia and China.
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They were the measuring stick a few posts back. What happened?
    Don't be a liar, quote where I said that.
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Did I ever say we didn't? However, we never did that and worse on the same level as Russia and China.
    Glad to see your admission. Feel better about it because it wasn't quite as bad as China's crimes. Glad you turned the light on yourself.
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Your statement is so full of baloney it's funny. One need only to know how to search on the internet to find clear evidence that we supported dictators who used death squads to murder thousands of dissenters. Here is video of the Iran-Contra hearings, for one. And Saddam Hussein? We supported him too, while it was in our interests to do so. Yea, go ahead and plug your ears and close your eyes, and say it never happened. However, no matter how much you might want to rewrite history, the evidence is still there, and always will be. You aren't going to convince anybody of something in which hard evidence is out there that shows what you are saying is pure baloney.

    Where is it mentioned anywhere that "we supported dictators who used death squads to murder thousands of dissenters"? You shouldn't just look it up on the internet expecting it to say what you believe what you think it will say.

    Keep in mind that this all took place during the Cold War when there was a great deal of anti American propaganda coming from the left. To continue with the same propaganda in the following decades is a naivety, or misunderstanding, that is almost surreal.

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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The point apdst, is that Russia and China aren't the measuring stick for US foreign policy, we profess respect for IL and we have a constitution that when followed, would set us above those countries.
    What is the measuring stick? When the USA behaves in a more moral fashion than any of their enemies they still get all the blame. That's why I see far more criticism on these boards about the United States than Russia, China, and any Muslim dominated country, or anywhere else in the world. George Bush gets more criticism than Mao, Stalin, Saddam or every despot ever did.

    The education process in the United States has failed its people to an alarming degree.

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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Where is it mentioned anywhere that "we supported dictators who used death squads to murder thousands of dissenters"? You shouldn't just look it up on the internet expecting it to say what you believe what you think it will say.

    Keep in mind that this all took place during the Cold War when there was a great deal of anti American propaganda coming from the left. To continue with the same propaganda in the following decades is a naivety, or misunderstanding, that is almost surreal.
    Looks like you didn't watch the link. It is actual footage from the Iran-Contra hearings. This isn't from the left at all. It's from actual proceedings. DUH......
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Looks like you didn't watch the link. It is actual footage from the Iran-Contra hearings. This isn't from the left at all. It's from actual proceedings. DUH......
    I know where it's from and asked you a question concerning that video. I'm very familiar with these hearings but it seems you are not.

    The message you took from that video, which you have never seen, originated with leftist propaganda about 'death squads' and the like. No worries because many naive leftists all over the world have sucked up that crap. Americans, and Canadians, should know better though.

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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I know where it's from and asked you a question concerning that video. I'm very familiar with these hearings but it seems you are not.

    The message you took from that video, which you have never seen, originated with leftist propaganda about 'death squads' and the like. No worries because many naive leftists all over the world have sucked up that crap. Americans, and Canadians, should know better though.
    If you are familiar with the footage, then you are blatantly lying. My guess is that you are unfamiliar with the footage, and don't know what you are talking about.
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    Re: Russia and China Move Into Central America

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What is the measuring stick? When the USA behaves in a more moral fashion than any of their enemies they still get all the blame. That's why I see far more criticism on these boards about the United States than Russia, China, and any Muslim dominated country, or anywhere else in the world. George Bush gets more criticism than Mao, Stalin, Saddam or every despot ever did.

    The education process in the United States has failed its people to an alarming degree.
    Look at you whine. Obama gets his ass kicked here everyday, and all you could mention is Bush. Who knows how many times it will take to sink in for you, I've made it abundantly clear that as an American, I'm concerned with what my money and representatives are doing around the world. It's for the citizens of Russia and China to deal with their leadership about what they are up to abroad. Our measuring stick is our constitution. And when we have a president circumventing congress to sell arms to our "enemy" or a president circumventing congress to supply arms to terrorist organisations, our constitution is being stepped on (not to mention IL) and our image is diminished, and of course human rights are violated, people suffer and die.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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