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Scientists in cover-up of ‘damaging’ climate view[W:38:145]

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jmotivator said:
Translation: "I'll be darned! There really AREN'T any actual errors listed in those review notes."
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No, the Translation of "sigh* was. "It's a complete waste of time trying to have a rational discussion with someone who has their tinfoil hat firmly in place."
 
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Ceist said:
No, the Translation of "sigh* was. "It's a complete waste of time trying to have a rational discussion with someone who has their tinfoil hat firmly in place."
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I asked you a simple question which you can't answer. Fortunately everyone can read the reviewers notes that you so kindly provided and answer the question themselves.
 
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jmotivator said:
I asked you a simple question which you can't answer. Fortunately everyone can read the reviewers notes that you so kindly provided and answer the question themselves.
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Yes, everyone can read the report (which the OP didn't bother to look up) and it answered your question. So why were you asking?- I guess you didn't read the report?

You also gave your 'expert' opinion on the draft paper without reading it too, so I'm not surprised you didn't read the reviewers report either.
 
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Boo Radley said:
And one man's word us enough?
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Of course it is if he is truthful. It's not an isolated incident.
 
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rocket88 said:
He didn't put forth any facts or anything that actually happened to him. Just his feelings and your typical non-sensical rants. Which is sadly what I've come to expect from cons around here. The people that brought you intelligent people like George Will have devolved into zimmer.
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He explained why. The Enviromaniacs played politics with his view of things. The guy is a scientist with a fairly long record and a seemingly good reputation.

How this can fly over your head is amazing. Then again... not.

Look... I get it. You're a follower of Algore & Obama, and this just doesn't do your religion any good. Hence the inability to see the truth.

Your problem, and it's nice for you to illustrate your intellectual bankruptcy no such a simple matter.

Instead of concern for science being corrupted, you defend the corruption.

Good on ya mate.
 
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Mr.Nick said:
No, the majority of fastfood workers where I'm from don't even know who the **** the VP of the US is.... All they care about is 15 dollars an hour minimum wage because it seems they have made careers out of taking your order - which they will still ****up even if you paid them 50 bucks an hour minimum wage.

An idiot will always be an idiot and a wage increase cannot boost intelligence or production.
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From what I've heard, quite a few very educated persons have been forced into low-wage jobs. Just because you haven't met any doesn't mean they don't exist.
 
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zimmer said:
Of course it is if he is truthful. It's not an isolated incident.
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You must 1) show him truthful with objective evidence, and 2) you must show it to happen regularly with objective evidence. That has not been done here yet.
 
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zimmer said:
He explained why. The Enviromaniacs played politics with his view of things. The guy is a scientist with a fairly long record and a seemingly good reputation.

How this can fly over your head is amazing. Then again... not.

Look... I get it. You're a follower of Algore & Obama, and this just doesn't do your religion any good. Hence the inability to see the truth.

Your problem, and it's nice for you to illustrate your intellectual bankruptcy no such a simple matter.

Instead of concern for science being corrupted, you defend the corruption.

Good on ya mate.
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You've obviously never read anything I wrote here. So I will stop wasting my time with illiterate idiots.
 
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Boo Radley said:
You must 1) show him truthful with objective evidence, and 2) you must show it to happen regularly with objective evidence. That has not been done here yet.
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"But..But...Al Gore! Obama!"
 
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Here's my suggestion- decide ahead which scientific sources you trust and then go see what they say on the subject. I go with NASA but maybe JPL or NOAA or British Antarctic Survey would do. That way you can get reliable information, not creative manipulation of statistics.
'Course, it can be more fun deciding ahead what you want to hear and then going on an internet dumpster-diving expedition for support for your views.
 
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The German said:
So you know how to interpret climate studies? Where did you gain that knowlege? From observing flies in a swamp?


lol

A man talks as if he knows science. A theory, is established when it shows to be valid in field testing, it is deiscredited whn field testing brings different results. That is science!

You probably dont even know the term used to describe what the scientific method is, you probably never heard of Karl Popper, you probably dont even know what peer review is.

And even more likely, you are one of those people who believes that we are the result of 6000 years of incest by a man and a woman created out of the mans ribb.



What is a warminst? Did you dream that up, or your preacher?

Evidence is available in abundance.

I know more about science than something like you could ever dream to know. Once you figure out how gravity works, you can come back, and I might feel kind enought to explain the barry field to you!

You are speaking to an aspiring scientist in the field of statistical maths, who comes from a family of scientists!!!!!

Someone like me is in no need of lecture on science by some swamp people!
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I am an atheist and because of that am very much in favor of the scientific method. But what GW theorists have done is not scientific in nature at all. They have yet to conclude how much the current warming trend is attributable to humans and how much of it is natural. Yet, they push the Human induced GW agenda as if it is a forgone conclusion that humans are the cause. This to me screams of something that is not being motivated by science, but politics and money.
 
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Capster78 said:
I am an atheist and because of that am very much in favor of the scientific method. But what GW theorists have done is not scientific in nature at all. They have yet to conclude how much the current warming trend is attributable to humans and how much of it is natural. Yet, they push the Human induced GW agenda as if it is a forgone conclusion that humans are the cause. This to me screams of something that is not being motivated by science, but politics and money.
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Exactly. Another point is that these "reports" aren't being released by scientific bodies, but political bodies. Its amazing how many people miss that.
 
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US Conservative said:
Exactly. Another point is that these "reports" aren't being released by scientific bodies, but political bodies. Its amazing how many people miss that.
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The other interesting thing to note is that scientific papers that do claim to conclude human induced climate change is occurring are financed by government grants or political agents.
 
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Manc Skipper said:
The facts are that a quarter of the American population (a shockingly large minority) have been duped into not accepting the reality of AGW because it's not convenient to their unsustainable lifestyle.
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If this is fact, then there is a reference.

Please supply the evidence that this is indeed "fact" and not more fantasy opinion.
 
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US Conservative said:
Exactly. Another point is that these "reports" aren't being released by scientific bodies, but political bodies. Its amazing how many people miss that.
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Starting with the IPCC report and the alleged 1,400 "scientists"....

How quiet that has gotten since its been pointed out the greatest number of people cited on that were bureaucrats who made their living off global warming and that a large percentage of scientists named as contributors were not referenced, their opposing views hidden.

It's been a bureaucrat scam since day one. Take a look at Kyoto.....it's farce
 
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Fearandloathing said:
Starting with the IPCC report and the alleged 1,400 "scientists"....

How quiet that has gotten since its been pointed out the greatest number of people cited on that were bureaucrats who made their living off global warming and that a large percentage of scientists named as contributors were not referenced, their opposing views hidden.

It's been a bureaucrat scam since day one. Take a look at Kyoto.....it's farce
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Of course it is.
 
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Manc Skipper said:
The facts are that a quarter of the American population (a shockingly large minority) have been duped into not accepting the reality of AGW because it's not convenient to their unsustainable lifestyle.
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They should just plant more trees like reverend Gore.
 
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http://www.nipccreport.org/reports/ccr2b/pdf/Summary-for-Policymakers.pdf

It's obvious that when one of the founders of Green Peace is leaving his own organization because of fanaticism and hypocrisy, there is something wrong with the kool aid those dudes are drinking.

Climate change is a fact -- because the climate will always be changing, but it pretty much stops there. The IPCC is a UN organization pushing for global influence on policy makers and it's absolutely disgusting to see these liars parading as 'do gooders'.
 
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rocket88 said:
You've obviously never read anything I wrote here. So I will stop wasting my time with illiterate idiots.
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You make accusation, then fail to back them up.

You claim fear is meaningless, and there is no grounds for it, but the Swedish scientist tells why.

I realize it is tough to have your religion and political football shoved down your throat... but hey, that's what happens when you subscribe to an idiotic idiology. Eventually the truth comes out, even with all the outlets you have that try and bury the football.
 
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dropp said:
http://www.nipccreport.org/reports/ccr2b/pdf/Summary-for-Policymakers.pdf

It's obvious that when one of the founders of Green Peace is leaving his own organization because of fanaticism and hypocrisy, there is something wrong with the kool aid those dudes are drinking.

Climate change is a fact -- because the climate will always be changing, but it pretty much stops there. The IPCC is a UN organization pushing for global influence on policy makers and it's absolutely disgusting to see these liars parading as 'do gooders'.
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And how often do you hear from Patrick Moore in the media?

Like never.
 
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rocket88 said:
"But..But...Al Gore! Obama!"
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The democraticunderground.com in you is seeping out I see.
 
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zimmer said:
And how often do you hear from Patrick Moore in the media?

Like never.
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And we should, why?
 
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j-mac said:
They should just plant more trees like reverend Gore.
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Who would it hurt if they did? What do you have against trees?
 
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zimmer said:
The democraticunderground.com in you is seeping out I see.
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Which is just WND for liberals.
 
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rocket88 said:
Who would it hurt if they did? What do you have against trees?
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:lamo now that's funny right there. Trying to frame your straw argument in the way you do here shows exactly what kind of deception people are up against with the religion of AGW zealots.
 
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