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Sudanese Woman Sentenced to Death After Marrying Christian

Freedom of Christianity, you mean. Clearly other religions don't count. Can't built statues of baphomet, can't allow mosques in an arbitrary distance of the twin towers site, etc.

We have mosques here, too. Baphomet? Who says you can't put up a statue of Baphomet if you want to?

No one gets to dictate which religion you must adhere to, or that you must adhere to any.
 
It's those living outside these nations who will defend or brush aside the actions of these religious fanatics. They've forgotten about Darfur there as well.

No.

I really don't believe you must have other people outside of your country help you out (though it's beneficial and great, sure, but not required) - you've gotta stand up and do it yourself. That's the only way it will get done, if the people who are affected by it change things.

I honestly think some people actually have that in their heads - waiting for Superman to come along and save the day.
 
No.

I really don't believe you must have other people outside of your country help you out (though it's beneficial and great, sure, but not required) - you've gotta stand up and do it yourself. That's the only way it will get done, if the people who are affected by it change things.

I honestly think some people actually have that in their heads - waiting for Superman to come along and save the day.

There have been times where Superman (or Mighty Mouse) has saved the day but it seems these aren't those times.

Who knows what we can do to save that poor woman in the Sudan, or those young girls in Nigeria, but we can certainly speak out against it. In fact it should be our duty to do so.
 
Freedom of Christianity, you mean. Clearly other religions don't count. Can't built statues of baphomet, can't allow mosques in an arbitrary distance of the twin towers site, etc.
Clearly other religions do count or they wouldn't be under discussion.
 
There are no gods, there is only mankind. The religion can do nothing than man chooses not to do. The world is shaped by the choices and actions of man and man alone. The government, composed of men in power, seeks to maintain its power and dominion over its people in these sorts of despotic regimes. It's a story as old as mankind itself and predates the gods.

Where the **** did God come from? Religion is man-made. And institutions like the church have historically wielded much MUCH more power than governments. Emperors have bowed down before popes before, you imbecile. Islam is at fault just as much as the government.

This isn't anything close to despotism, its just a free-for-all cluster**** with terrorist organizations.
 
No.

I really don't believe you must have other people outside of your country help you out (though it's beneficial and great, sure, but not required) - you've gotta stand up and do it yourself. That's the only way it will get done, if the people who are affected by it change things.

I honestly think some people actually have that in their heads - waiting for Superman to come along and save the day.

It's our fault for not letting the U.N. do its job and sending soldiers everywhere. The U.S. gave itself that reputation of superman so now we have to deal with this bickering for us to get our asses in somewhere.
 
This is the sort of thing that happens when the government and religion are one, and have total power.

Long live freedom of religion. Without it, there is no freedom at all.

8th century Catholic church... Modern Islamic style though this time.
 
It's our fault for not letting the U.N. do its job and sending soldiers everywhere. The U.S. gave itself that reputation of superman so now we have to deal with this bickering for us to get our asses in somewhere.

We've gone above and beyond and nearly destroyed our country in the process.

There have been times where Superman (or Mighty Mouse) has saved the day but it seems these aren't those times.

Who knows what we can do to save that poor woman in the Sudan, or those young girls in Nigeria, but we can certainly speak out against it. In fact it should be our duty to do so.

Speaking out is all good and great but won't force change to take and stick.
 
No, Grant. It's "all Muslims ARE terrorists." THAT *is* the most common and most incorrect used line.

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most all condone it. The outcry against it is drowned out by the extremists.
 
It's our fault for not letting the U.N. do its job and sending soldiers everywhere. The U.S. gave itself that reputation of superman so now we have to deal with this bickering for us to get our asses in somewhere.

That's because the UN has shown itself to be a collection of incompetent boobs when it comes to military involvement; and ever since we allowed them to have command of ROEs in Beirut (and failed), we haven't trusted them to command our troops.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinational_Force_in_Lebanon#Barracks_bombing
 
Where the **** did God come from? Religion is man-made. And institutions like the church have historically wielded much MUCH more power than governments. Emperors have bowed down before popes before, you imbecile. Islam is at fault just as much as the government.

This isn't anything close to despotism, its just a free-for-all cluster**** with terrorist organizations.

God and religion are two different things.

In recent years only the Muslim world has had complete control of governments and we can see the consequences everywhere.
 
Speaking out is all good and great but won't force change to take and stick.
It might be all we have and Islamists are even trying to control that through using terms like "Islamophobia" (which some actually take seriously) or threatening death and issuing fatwahs. We can see how the media and entertainment industry is nervous about laughing at Muslims (a ripe target) or even publishing their atrocities. Instead they take the safe route by being critical of Christians and Jews.
 
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most all condone it. The outcry against it is drowned out by the extremists.

While condemning with one side of their mouth they also make excuses for it with the other. CAIR is a good example of that.
 
It's our fault for not letting the U.N. do its job and sending soldiers everywhere. The U.S. gave itself that reputation of superman so now we have to deal with this bickering for us to get our asses in somewhere.

Those who criticized America for being 'the policeman of the world' are now wanting it back.
 
We've gone above and beyond and nearly destroyed our country in the process.



Speaking out is all good and great but won't force change to take and stick.

Destroyed our country is a bit of an overstatement. But yes, this country took some hits with the god-awfully useless war that was Iraq. Osama Bin Laden is dead, airport security is quadrupled compared to pre-911 security, and every one is tired of the wars. So let's just quit them all and get back and never look at the Middle East again as we try to remove our oil dependence with research and innovation in renewable energy sources.
 
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most all condone it. The outcry against it is drowned out by the extremists.

Simply not true.

Tell me, American. When Waco happened, did you feel the need to condone it as a Christian?
 
God and religion are two different things.

In recent years only the Muslim world has had complete control of governments and we can see the consequences everywhere.

We more than see the consequences now we foresaw them years ago.

This is nothing new. I'm telling you, what's happening in the Middle East/Africa literally sounds like my Western Civ book during Feudalism except Islam is in the place of Christianity.
 
Simply not true.

Tell me, American. When Waco happened, did you feel the need to condone it as a Christian?

Nope, the guy was whacko, but the FBI ****ed up big time.
 
Simply not true.

Tell me, American. When Waco happened, did you feel the need to condone it as a Christian?

Hehehe, not sure about American but I sure as hell condoned the amount of kickass the FBI delivered. Unfortunately those whack-jobs ended up burning the place down with women and children inside (but who knows, maybe I'm glad for it because the kids were the next generation of whack-jobs and the women may have been whack-jobs as well, so I dont think any deaths there earn my sympathy), but as long as it was ended whatever.

On topic: I don't think any Christian outside whack-jobs would condone this. Muslims on the other hand, if the government can act as Islam's puppet then I'm sure they all condone whatever happens.
 
On 14 July 2008, the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court (ICC), Luis Moreno Ocampo, alleged that al-Bashir bore individual criminal responsibility for genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes committed since 2003 in Darfur.[25] The prosecutor accused al-Bashir of having "masterminded and implemented" a plan to destroy the three main ethnic groups, the Fur, Masalit and Zaghawa, with a campaign of murder, rape and deportation. The arrest warrant is supported by NATO, the Genocide Intervention Network, and Amnesty International.

An arrest warrant for al-Bashir was issued on 4 March 2009 by a Pre-Trial chamber composed of judges Akua Kuenyehia of Ghana, Anita Usacka of Latvia, and Sylvia Steiner of Brazil[103] indicting him on five counts of crimes against humanity (murder, extermination, forcible transfer, torture and rape) and two counts of war crimes (pillaging and intentionally directing attacks against civilians).[27][104] The court ruled that there was insufficient evidence to prosecute him for genocide.[28][105] However, one of the three judges wrote a dissenting opinion arguing that there were "reasonable grounds to believe that Omar Al Bashir has committed the crime of genocide."[105]

International Criminal Court Prosecutor Luis Moreno-Ocampo told U.S. State Department officials on March 20, 2009 that President Bashir 'needed to be isolated.' Ocampo suggested that if Bashir's stash of money were disclosed (he put the figure at possibly $9 billion), it would change Sudanese public opinion from him being a “crusader” to that of a thief.[106]
Omar al-Bashir - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Why do we have to debate whether or not all Muslims are or support terrorism and not actually discuss this massive human rights violation?
 
Sad! I would escape!
 
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