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    Re: Sudanese Woman Sentenced to Death After Marrying Christian

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I'm bothered that the people in such nations are so snowballed, blinded, and controlled that they don't give a flying **** and I bet you many even support the effort.

    The 0's called, they want their zealots back.
    It's those living outside these nations who will defend or brush aside the actions of these religious fanatics. They've forgotten about Darfur there as well.

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    Re: Sudanese Woman Sentenced to Death After Marrying Christian

    This is the sort of thing that happens when the government and religion are one, and have total power.

    Long live freedom of religion. Without it, there is no freedom at all.
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    Re: Sudanese Woman Sentenced to Death After Marrying Christian

    Quoting another news source:

    Mariam Yahia Ebrahim Ishag, 27, is eight months pregnant and married to a Christian national of South Sudan which broke away in 2011, human rights activists say.

    “We gave you three days to recant but you insist on not returning to Islam. I sentence you to be hanged,” Judge Abbas Mohammad Al Khalifa told the woman, addressing her by her father’s Muslim name, Adraf Al Hadi Mohammad Abdullah.

    Khalifa also sentenced Ishaq to 100 lashes for “adultery”. Under Sudan’s interpretation of sharia, a Muslim woman cannot marry a non-Muslim man and any such relationship is regarded as adulterous.

    Ishag reacted without emotion when Abbas delivered the verdict at a court in the Khartoum district of Haj Yousef.

    Earlier in the hearing, an Islamic religious leader spoke with her in the caged dock for about 30 minutes.

    Then she calmly told the judge: “I am a Christian and I never committed apostasy.”

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    “We call upon the government of Sudan to respect the right to freedom of religion, including one’s right to change one’s faith or beliefs,” the embassies of the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom and the Netherlands said in their statement.

    That right is included in Sudan’s 2005 interim constitution as well as in international human rights law, they said.

    The embassies urged Sudanese legal authorities “to approach Mariam’s case with justice and compassion that is in keeping with the values of the Sudanese people”.

    Amnesty International said Ishag was raised as an Orthodox Christian, her mother’s religion, because her Muslim father was absent.

    “It’s not only Sudan. In Saudi Arabia, in all the Muslim countries, it is not allowed at all for a Muslim to change his religion,” Information Minister Ahmad Bilal Osman told AFP earlier.
    Sudanese judge hands death sentence for apostasy | GulfNews.com
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    Re: Sudanese Woman Sentenced to Death After Marrying Christian

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No, the most commonly used line is "not all Muslims are terrorists".
    So are you taking issue, suggesting that all Muslims are terrorists, or are you for some reason upset that people commonly use a true statement?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Sudanese Woman Sentenced to Death After Marrying Christian

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    This is the sort of thing that happens when the government and religion are one, and have total power.

    Long live freedom of religion. Without it, there is no freedom at all.
    Freedom of Christianity, you mean. Clearly other religions don't count. Can't built statues of baphomet, can't allow mosques in an arbitrary distance of the twin towers site, etc.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Sudanese Woman Sentenced to Death After Marrying Christian

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Freedom of Christianity, you mean. Clearly other religions don't count. Can't built statues of baphomet, can't allow mosques in an arbitrary distance of the twin towers site, etc.
    We have mosques here, too. Baphomet? Who says you can't put up a statue of Baphomet if you want to?

    No one gets to dictate which religion you must adhere to, or that you must adhere to any.
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    Re: Sudanese Woman Sentenced to Death After Marrying Christian

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's those living outside these nations who will defend or brush aside the actions of these religious fanatics. They've forgotten about Darfur there as well.
    No.

    I really don't believe you must have other people outside of your country help you out (though it's beneficial and great, sure, but not required) - you've gotta stand up and do it yourself. That's the only way it will get done, if the people who are affected by it change things.

    I honestly think some people actually have that in their heads - waiting for Superman to come along and save the day.
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    Re: Sudanese Woman Sentenced to Death After Marrying Christian

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    No.

    I really don't believe you must have other people outside of your country help you out (though it's beneficial and great, sure, but not required) - you've gotta stand up and do it yourself. That's the only way it will get done, if the people who are affected by it change things.

    I honestly think some people actually have that in their heads - waiting for Superman to come along and save the day.
    There have been times where Superman (or Mighty Mouse) has saved the day but it seems these aren't those times.

    Who knows what we can do to save that poor woman in the Sudan, or those young girls in Nigeria, but we can certainly speak out against it. In fact it should be our duty to do so.

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    Re: Sudanese Woman Sentenced to Death After Marrying Christian

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Freedom of Christianity, you mean. Clearly other religions don't count. Can't built statues of baphomet, can't allow mosques in an arbitrary distance of the twin towers site, etc.
    Clearly other religions do count or they wouldn't be under discussion.

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    Re: Sudanese Woman Sentenced to Death After Marrying Christian

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There are no gods, there is only mankind. The religion can do nothing than man chooses not to do. The world is shaped by the choices and actions of man and man alone. The government, composed of men in power, seeks to maintain its power and dominion over its people in these sorts of despotic regimes. It's a story as old as mankind itself and predates the gods.
    Where the **** did God come from? Religion is man-made. And institutions like the church have historically wielded much MUCH more power than governments. Emperors have bowed down before popes before, you imbecile. Islam is at fault just as much as the government.

    This isn't anything close to despotism, its just a free-for-all cluster**** with terrorist organizations.
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