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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

    The Million Man March all over again, only this time a different crowd.

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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Not yet, but the info is slowly making it's way to the surface. Just imagine how much crap Obama would be in if the media went after him, the way they went after Nixon.
    Weeeellllllll, it was the FBI who went after Nixon. In both the criminal investigation and as the leak to the press, the FBI was the lead and very effective investigation agency. The media didn't focus on the White House connection until one of the burglars wrote the judge claiming of a high level cover-up.

    So it was the FBI making a rather quick link of the burglars and the CREP funds, with an FBI leaker, and the burglars not falling on their swords for Tricky Dick. Once one fell the upper managers quickly turned and soon Nixon was alone.

    blame the media, but it was good old fashion investigation, and no honor among burglars that doomed Nixon.

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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Weeeellllllll, it was the FBI who went after Nixon. In both the criminal investigation and as the leak to the press, the FBI was the lead and very effective investigation agency. The media didn't focus on the White House connection until one of the burglars wrote the judge claiming of a high level cover-up.

    So it was the FBI making a rather quick link of the burglars and the CREP funds, with an FBI leaker, and the burglars not falling on their swords for Tricky Dick. Once one fell the upper managers quickly turned and soon Nixon was alone.

    blame the media, but it was good old fashion investigation, and no honor among burglars that doomed Nixon.
    Your point?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    This sounds like idiots on parade, much like the OWS "movement" or the "million man" march. Make lots of noise, display random signs of discontent and offer no positive coherent message or specific support for replacement candidates/policies. The sad fact, in federal politics, is that one may vote for (or against) at most 3 of our 535 congress critters and the POTUS in any given election cycle.
    I dont see why everyone needs an orderly and agreed upon mantra when its simply obvious that the people in the government dont represent the average american people. Simply being there is a coherent enough message.
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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I dont see why everyone needs an orderly and agreed upon mantra when its simply obvious that the people in the government dont represent the average american people. Simply being there is a coherent enough message.
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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Criticism is not the same as constructive criticism; the first only tells that you are wrong while the second tells you how to not be wrong.
    That seems more like a repeated catch phrase than actual thinking. If a thousand people tell you "You are an asshole" perhaps you should start listening.
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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Your point?
    It wasn't the bad ol' medias hounding Nixon that drove him from office or spurred on the American people to rise up, march by the millions to DC and demand Nixon's head....

    What drove him out was a handful of his closest supporters in Congress meeting with him and telling him, given the evidence the FBI had uncovered, given the sworn statements by the burglars and now his inner circle against him these close supporters would vote for impeachment.

    I realize the CONs love to blame the 'medias' for everything under the sun, however with Nixon it was old fashion investigation and his inner circle abandoning him that drove him out of office...

    Nice try though a bit predictable....

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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    It wasn't the bad ol' medias hounding Nixon that drove him from office or spurred on the American people to rise up, march by the millions to DC and demand Nixon's head....

    What drove him out was a handful of his closest supporters in Congress meeting with him and telling him, given the evidence the FBI had uncovered, given the sworn statements by the burglars and now his inner circle against him these close supporters would vote for impeachment.

    I realize the CONs love to blame the 'medias' for everything under the sun, however with Nixon it was old fashion investigation and his inner circle abandoning him that drove him out of office...

    Nice try though a bit predictable....
    "Deep Throat" broke the whole mess wide open. Deep Throat took his info to the media, first. Without that media pressure, Watergate wouldn't have amounted to much a scandal.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    "Deep Throat" broke the whole mess wide open. Deep Throat took his info to the media, first. Without that media pressure, Watergate wouldn't have amounted to much a scandal.
    We remember it differently, the media attention was sparked by the bungling burglars telling the Judge there was a vast right wing conspiracy to cover up the break-in.

    TODAY, we look at 'deep throat' as a pivotal moment, back then it was an 'unnamed source' for two rather minor reporters on the Washington Post- many doubted the existence of such a leak and it was rather two 'lefties' attacking the President in a rather cowardly way.

    But who was 'Deep Throat'??? FBI Associate Director Mark Felt. So we are back to the FBI.

    Now when the bumbling burglars were caught they had sequential 100 dollar bills, the phone number for E. Howard Hunt, and one man was a security man for CREEP. Investigation lead the money trace to the CREEP donations, the burglars fell out and pointed, the inner circle tried to at first cover it up and then pointed fingers...

    Nixon wasn't hounded out of office, the media discovered nothing but were spoon fed information by an FBI source, reported the FBI official findings as well as the burglar and inner circle statements.

    Nixon was pushed out of office by his own party telling him they would impeach him, based on the evidence, not media reports from an 'unnamed source'....

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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

    People that hate Obama are as hilarious to me as the people that hated Bush. Just sad and funny.
    The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected.
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