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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Correct its not the right its the extreme right which is an entirely different thing. It would be like pointing a finger at the left for the extreme lefts occupy bull****. The problem though is that some on the right have thrown their support behind these nutcases thinking that they not extremists just like the left did.
    Yes, I agree...Most people on the right, even those of us that early on supported the TP and their initial cause, now see much of this kind of stuff as doing more harm than good.
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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

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    No doubt....Check this out...



    Occupy and Anon made since together but Anon and Operation American Spring is odd until you analyse the messages being touted. I guess if you take extremism far enough its all the same.

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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Classic leftist tactics. Intended to make this appear as a failure. Of course, people like you have said the same about the TEA Party before, and it cost you the 2010 election. Perhaps you guys are slow learners.

    Heres the news-its going to be even worse for you this november. Get a pen. Write it down. Its happening.
    Wait, I'm confused...

    It's a "classic leftist tactic" for this group to claim that:

    Phase 1 - Field millions, as many as ten million, patriots who will assemble in a peaceful, non-violent, physically unarmed (Spiritually/Constitutionally armed), display of unswerving loyalty to the US Constitution and against the incumbent government leadership in Washington D.C..(Source)
    And to only manage to gather a few thousand, at best?

    Don't claim you're going to "Field millions" or throw out there a number like "Ten million" when you can't even top 10,000 (and possibly even 1000). Someone being ridiculously exaggerated in their expectations isn't a "classic leftist tactic", it's a classic dumbasses tactic for screwing over ones self.

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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    I wasnt at all addressing appearances I was talking about the message being told by the guys in those videos, which makes them look very much like occupiers. Perhaps it was the mention several times about corporations that did it? That and the speaker was insisting that everyone should be thinking the way that they do and that 'wake up' bull****. Never believe anyone that says 'wake up' they are always trying to jam something down your throat like a used car salesman or a late night tv preacher. These people seem to have some delusional obsession with that lame ass president Obama. They even try and claim that Obama will never leave office. That want their militia/Tea party6 friends to believe that they have to rise up against the government. They are all crazy conspiracy theorist nutjobs. Like I said they sound a lot like the occupiers.
    This is very different from "conspiracy theorists". Where was someone "insisting that everyone should be thinking the way they do"? Sounded like an opinion to me. I dont see them as saying they have to rise up, but they do make a point there-the govt serves at our pleasure, and we retain the right to overthrow them if we see fit. Thats not a conspiracy, thats one of the fundamentals of this nation.

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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Wait, I'm confused...

    It's a "classic leftist tactic" for this group to claim that:



    And to only manage to gather a few thousand, at best?

    Don't claim you're going to "Field millions" or throw out there a number like "Ten million" when you can't even top 10,000 (and possibly even 1000). Someone being ridiculously exaggerated in their expectations isn't a "classic leftist tactic", it's a classic dumbasses tactic for screwing over ones self.
    You certainly do seem confused. I didn't read your link as a specific claim for this particular event, seems more like a broad outline or mission statement to me for what they'd like to do, and I dont see any specific claims.

    We must appeal to ten million and more American patriots to come and stay in Washington, D.C. to stop the White House and Congress from total destruction of the United States. It's now or never. God help us.
    I dont see that as "on said date this number of people will meet". If you are still confused, maybe read your link, and then kindly post the specific claims you gleamed from this site.

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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    This is very different from "conspiracy theorists". Where was someone "insisting that everyone should be thinking the way they do"? Sounded like an opinion to me. I dont see them as saying they have to rise up, but they do make a point there-the govt serves at our pleasure, and we retain the right to overthrow them if we see fit. Thats not a conspiracy, thats one of the fundamentals of this nation.
    True that we the people have the ultimate power and say so. But the people protesting are nothing more than a fringe group. Had Harry Riley been able to get 30 million supporters in DC thats still would have been only 1/10th of the population, a minority. But there isnt 30m supporters no where near it.

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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    True that we the people have the ultimate power and say so. But the people protesting are nothing more than a fringe group. Had Harry Riley been able to get 30 million supporters in DC thats still would have been only 1/10th of the population, a minority. But there isnt 30m supporters no where near it.
    Fringe groups like the TEA party were quite effective and impactful in previous elections. The TEA party is concerned with economic issues, not social-and they also dont have a head, they are a diverse group but the general goals are quite rational and reasonable. They are attractive to people on all sides who are tired of this overreaching and intrusive govt that gets more Orwellian every day.

    Instead of focusing on the individuals at this event, you should focus on the issues they are concerned about, and the significant number of people who they represent. They have views that many others have-dont make the same mistake dems made in 2010.

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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Fringe groups like the TEA party were quite effective and impactful in previous elections. The TEA party is concerned with economic issues, not social-and they also dont have a head, they are a diverse group but the general goals are quite rational and reasonable. They are attractive to people on all sides who are tired of this overreaching and intrusive govt that gets more Orwellian every day.

    Instead of focusing on the individuals at this event, you should focus on the issues they are concerned about, and the significant number of people who they represent. They have views that many others have-dont make the same mistake dems made in 2010.
    I wasnt at all concerned with the individuals (all though I did point out the obvious about them, which is a valid observation) my concerns are entirely based on the methods the goal and the ideologically sour Tea party/militia groups involved.

    When the occupiers were in defence of their little game they also tried to use the card that you are trying use. They claimed that we should ignore all the nutjobs running around being asses and concentrate on their supporters which they claimed to be the majority of the voting public. That turned out to be a bogus claim much like your claim will turn out the same way, fringe groups dont have large numbers of supporters or they wouldnt be fringe groups.

    But really both sides intended on exploiting the valid concerns that most Americans do have about our Government and the politicians. The problem is that the Occupiers, Tea Party/militia etc offer a frying pan into the fire scenario that logically should be avoided like the plague.

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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    I wasnt at all concerned with the individuals (all though I did point out the obvious about them, which is a valid observation) my concerns are entirely based on the methods the goal and the ideologically sour Tea party/militia groups involved.

    When the occupiers were in defence of their little game they also tried to use the card that you are trying use. They claimed that we should ignore all the nutjobs running around being asses and concentrate on their supporters which they claimed to be the majority of the voting public. That turned out to be a bogus claim much like your claim will turn out the same way, fringe groups dont have large numbers of supporters or they wouldnt be fringe groups.

    But really both sides intended on exploiting the valid concerns that most Americans do have about our Government and the politicians. The problem is that the Occupiers, Tea Party/militia etc offer a frying pan into the fire scenario that logically should be avoided like the plague.
    You make some very biased opinions. Someone elses bogus actions doesnt mean these guys are bogus.

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    Re: Operation American Spring to hit DC...

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    You certainly do seem confused. I didn't read your link as a specific claim for this particular event, seems more like a broad outline or mission statement to me for what they'd like to do, and I dont see any specific claims.



    I dont see that as "on said date this number of people will meet". If you are still confused, maybe read your link, and then kindly post the specific claims you gleamed from this site.
    Go back to page one. They literally did predict a turnout of between 10 and 30 million.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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