Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

Fearandloathing · May 18, 2014

US Conservative said:
Lerner knew what she had done was wrong, and that she was going to be found out. Its also why she's pleaded the 5th.

And yet the left claims its a false scandal. They are about to get a dose of reality.

One of the reasons the left is not to be trusted, let alone believed.

In two days I have read three posts where it has been presented that this is business as usual, that even the emails that admit "targeting" political opponents are SOP....and one claiming there was nothing wrong in what Lerner had done, although even she admitted it under oath.

The deliberate sociopathic aspect of the deceit really is fascinating.

Unitedwestand13 · May 18, 2014

MMC said:
Right Here PB......that don't do anything over the issue with Mitchell. As she testified to.

The administration has claimed from the beginning that any special attention give Tea Party groups and other conservative organizations came strictly at the direction of people in the Cincinnati office, and was in no way directed by anyone in Washington.

That was always hard to believe, but now we’re seeing clearer evidence that it was a lie. The latest testimony comes from IRS attorney Cleta Mitchell, who says very clearly that she talked to people in Cincinnati and they weren’t running the show.

“I never heard from Cincinnati,” Mitchell said. “We only dealt with Washington.”.....snip~

the washington office sets the policy for other offices.

Unitedwestand13 · May 18, 2014

Fearandloathing said:
One of the reasons the left is not to be trusted, let alone believed.

In two days I have read three posts where it has been presented that this is business as usual, that even the emails that admit "targeting" political opponents are SOP....and one claiming there was nothing wrong in what Lerner had done, although even she admitted it under oath.

The deliberate sociopathic aspect of the deceit really is fascinating.

and that underlined statement is what i consider a insult to me. i find it insulting that my honesty can be discarded just because my political ideology disagrees with your own.

MMC · May 18, 2014

Unitedwestand13 said:
the washington office sets the policy for other offices.

Yeah and she clearly states she wasn't getting anything out of Cinci.....and Washington clearly deflected off that it wasn't them. But then Cummings proves that Narrative false coming out of Washington.....Doesn't it?

Unitedwestand13 · May 18, 2014

MMC said:
Yeah and she clearly states she wasn't getting anything out of Cinci.....and Washington clearly deflected off that it wasn't them. But then Cummings proves that Narrative false coming out of Washington.....Doesn't it?

this scandal requires evidence of motive.

so what is the motive.

MMC · May 18, 2014

Unitedwestand13 said:
this scandal requires evidence of motive.

so what is the motive.

Well, what do you think they have been trying to get those Lawmakers Emails and docs, hard drives and all that and have been delayed 6 times for......well I think they made that Clear when they filed for the Ethics investigation on Cummings.....as they stated. Why would he investigate a Private Citizen.

Unitedwestand13 · May 18, 2014

MMC said:
Well, what do you think they have been trying to get those Lawmakers Emails and docs, hard drives and all that and have been delayed 6 times for......well I think they made that Clear when they filed for the Ethics investigation on Cummings.....as they stated. Why would he investigate a Private Citizen.

so you are asking for a elected officials private correspondence?

pbrauer · May 18, 2014

MMC said:
Right Here PB......that don't do anything over the issue with Mitchell. As she testified to.

The administration has claimed from the beginning that any special attention give Tea Party groups and other conservative organizations came strictly at the direction of people in the Cincinnati office, and was in no way directed by anyone in Washington.

That was always hard to believe, but now we’re seeing clearer evidence that it was a lie. The latest testimony comes from IRS attorney Cleta Mitchell, who says very clearly that she talked to people in Cincinnati and they weren’t running the show.

“I never heard from Cincinnati,” Mitchell said. “We only dealt with Washington.”.....snip~

Where is her testimony? All I've seen you post is: “I never heard from Cincinnati,” and “We only dealt with Washington.”

US Conservative · May 18, 2014

Fearandloathing said:
One of the reasons the left is not to be trusted, let alone believed.

In two days I have read three posts where it has been presented that this is business as usual, that even the emails that admit "targeting" political opponents are SOP....and one claiming there was nothing wrong in what Lerner had done, although even she admitted it under oath.

The deliberate sociopathic aspect of the deceit really is fascinating.

They do the same on Benghazi...making arguments that Hillary herself has dismissed. Its remarkable, the pathos of the left.

MMC · May 18, 2014

Unitedwestand13 said:
so you are asking for a elected officials private correspondence?

Evidently they aren't, if they already have the letters he sent them that were 8,9, 10 pages long. But when you done trying to deflect why there is 6 delays just for this issue alone, within a year and know about the law. Then Somebody ain't Right.

I think that even works its way down to even the Criminal and Domestic Relation Divisions within the Courts. Just sayin!

MMC · May 18, 2014

pbrauer said:
Where is her testimony? All I've seen you post is: “I never heard from Cincinnati,” and “We only dealt with Washington.”

The Video is up.....back a few pages about 7 mins long.

Oh, and yes you have heard her say that.....the Direct Witness. :lol:

Unitedwestand13 · May 18, 2014

MMC said:
Evidently they aren't, if they already have the letters he sent them that were 8,9, 10 pages long. But when you done trying to deflect why there is 6 delays just for this issue alone, within a year and know about the law. Then Somebody ain't Right.

I think that even works its way down to even the Criminal and Domestic Relation Divisions within the Courts. Just sayin!

what was the reasons given for the delay?

US Conservative · May 18, 2014

Unitedwestand13 said:
and that underlined statement is what i consider a insult to me. i find it insulting that my honesty can be discarded just because my political ideology disagrees with your own.

If it was merely a difference in political ideology, Id expect to see the left also advocating-instead of obstructing the investigation into the IRS targeting.

One merely need to ask "what if bush had done this", and by this point there would be 3 A-list hollywood movies made about it. It would be mentioned at every hollywood awards ceremony, it would be covered constantly by the media.

But Bush didn't do this-so its crickets.

US Conservative · May 18, 2014

Unitedwestand13 said:
this scandal requires evidence of motive.

so what is the motive.

Why, because you say it does. I say it merely requires evidence of wrong doing. Nevermind the resulting coverup, obstruction by the left, and the new data coming to light.

Hmm, a bunch of leftists who want to help a Dear Leader win reelection. Hmm....what could be the motive?

Unitedwestand13 · May 18, 2014

US Conservative said:
If it was merely a difference in political ideology, Id expect to see the left also advocating-instead of obstructing the investigation into the IRS targeting.

One merely need to ask "what if bush had done this", and by this point there would be 3 A-list hollywood movies made about it. It would be mentioned at every hollywood awards ceremony, it would be covered constantly by the media.

But Bush didn't do this-so its crickets.

if this was not politically motivated we would not be holding someone in contempt of congress because she pleaded the fifth.

and nothing is dispelling my impression that the investigations are trying to find some way, any way, of crucifying obama's political career because they could not accept the fact he won his reelection.

MMC · May 18, 2014

Unitedwestand13 said:
what was the reasons given for the delay?

They need more time?????

.....

.....:2razz:

Unitedwestand13 · May 18, 2014

US Conservative said:
Why, because you say it does. I say it merely requires evidence of wrong doing. Nevermind the resulting coverup, obstruction by the left, and the new data coming to light.

Hmm, a bunch of leftists who want to help a Dear Leader win reelection. Hmm....what could be the motive?

again where is the proof. what is the motive for doing so?

Unitedwestand13 · May 18, 2014

MMC said:
They need more time?????

.....

.....:2razz:

a legitimate reason.

pbrauer · May 18, 2014

MMC said:
The Video is up.....back a few pages about 7 mins long.

Oh, and yes you have heard her say that.....the Direct Witness. :lol:

I am not interested in listening to videos all day long. There must be text available.

MMC · May 18, 2014

Unitedwestand13 said:
again where is the proof. what is the motive for doing so?

Again.....Cummings letters. Cummings Denial that there was never any Contact. So there is evidence and we have a denial of Admissibility.

Then there is Mitchell and The Cinci/Washington Matter. Then there are those other politicians that don't want to be discovered they sent letters to the IRS to and that's not even counting Levin.

Which Knowing good Old Chucky Shumer.....He will have his hand in this cookie jar too. :mrgreen:

pbrauer · May 18, 2014

US Conservative said:
If it was merely a difference in political ideology, Id expect to see the left also advocating-instead of obstructing the investigation into the IRS targeting.

One merely need to ask "what if bush had done this", and by this point there would be 3 A-list hollywood movies made about it. It would be mentioned at every hollywood awards ceremony, it would be covered constantly by the media.

But Bush didn't do this-so its crickets.

Read this and tell me what was going on there?

Transcripts show IRS agents in Cincinnati -- not Washington -- flagged Tea Party cases

MMC · May 18, 2014

pbrauer said:
I am not interested in listening to videos all day long. There must be text available.

Well C-Span that carried the full hearing is much longer. They did reduce down. So its not like it wasn't available to the public.

MMC · May 18, 2014

Unitedwestand13 said:
a legitimate reason.

Not in one year......where the FBI didn't interview any witnesses. :lamo

pbrauer · May 18, 2014

MMC said:
Well C-Span that carried the full hearing is much longer. They did reduce down. So its not like it wasn't available to the public.

Forget it, I'm interested, those quotes must have been taken out-of-context.

Unitedwestand13 · May 18, 2014

MMC said:
Not in one year......where the FBI didn't interview any witnesses. :lamo

you cannot tell but right now i am annoyed to put it lightly.

i am not joking right now.

do you discount anything a democrat says?

Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

How long is now?