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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You'll get it if a special prosecutor is ordered as it should be.
    You won't get a special persecutor unless there is evidence somebody in the inner circle did something wrong. In the case of Scooter Libby, he told the FBI a falsehood.


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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Pathos suggests it is beyond ones control, which is dubious in this case.

    They know precisely what they are doing and that it is deceitful.

    It matters not what file it is, FFS within the past two weeks there have been posts in here saying Obama never said "if you like your plan...."


    It is the politics of ideologues who no longer value the "right thing" but ""anything that keeps us in power."

    The very essence of what is NOT liberal and what has been the downfall of civilizations since man crawled out of the primoredial ooze and said "gimme da Obamaphone...fool".
    indeed


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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Look them Up CNN, NPR, and C-Span from all his hearings.

    But I have better.....I have Mitchell's Testimony. The one PB said he didn't want to go thru.




    Published on Feb 6, 2014


    Cleta Mitchell told Congress today the IRS is still targeting conservative groups. Mitchell also said the "ongoing" DOJ investigation is a complete sham.

    "I want to make three primary points here. First, the IRS scandal is real. It's not pretend, it's real. Number two, the IRS scandal is not just a bunch of bone-headed bureaucrats in some remote office contrary to what the President of the United States told the American People on Sunday. And, number 3, the IRS scandal is not over. It is continuing to this day. And, the Department of Justice Investigation is a sham. It is a nonexistent investigation.".....snip~
    She lost all credibility with me because the USA article clearly points to the Cincinnati, not Washington.

    Transcripts show IRS agents in Cincinnati -- not Washington -- flagged Tea Party cases


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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Look them Up CNN, NPR, and C-Span from all his hearings.

    But I have better.....I have Mitchell's Testimony. The one PB said he didn't want to go thru.




    Published on Feb 6, 2014


    Cleta Mitchell told Congress today the IRS is still targeting conservative groups. Mitchell also said the "ongoing" DOJ investigation is a complete sham.

    "I want to make three primary points here. First, the IRS scandal is real. It's not pretend, it's real. Number two, the IRS scandal is not just a bunch of bone-headed bureaucrats in some remote office contrary to what the President of the United States told the American People on Sunday. And, number 3, the IRS scandal is not over. It is continuing to this day. And, the Department of Justice Investigation is a sham. It is a nonexistent investigation.".....snip~


    First, as any Obamacrat will point out this woman is a Republican black hating racist and obviously incompetent and stupid if she has to deal with the IRS "every day"....instead of April 15th like honest Americans.

    Second, this is propaganda.

    Three, its all lies..

    and four, it ignores the fact the first ever email on this originated in Cleveland..

    five, Bush started it.
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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    You won't get a special persecutor unless there is evidence somebody in the inner circle did something wrong. In the case of Scooter Libby, he told the FBI a falsehood.
    Who Controls the House? Post 131.


    Cleta Mitchell to Newsmax: Holder Must 'Get Out of the Way' in IRS Probe

    The U.S. Justice Department "has so many conflicts" in the IRS scandal that the only way to investigate the agency properly for targeting conservative groups is through a special prosecutor, top Washington attorney Cleta Mitchell told Newsmax.

    "I just don't see how it's possible that they can conduct a proper investigation," Mitchell, who represented 10 groups were singled out for special screening in their applications for tax-exempt status, said in an exclusive interview. "It needs to be conducted and prosecuted by a special counsel.

    "It's high time the Justice Department did what it should do: get out of way — and [Attorney General] Eric Holder needs to appoint a special counsel."

    House Majority Leader Eric Cantor said on Friday that the Republican-controlled House would vote next Thursday on whether to ask Holder to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the Internal Revenue Service for singling out conservative, tea party and religious groups......snip~


    Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com Cleta Mitchell to Newsmax: Holder Must 'Get Out of the Way' in IRS Probe
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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    can a special prosicuter make someone testfy when that person has already plead the 5th?

    and it is harder to convict someone of contempt of congress for simply pleading the fifth.



    Congress Holds Lois Lerner In Contempt In IRS Targeting Probe (UPDATE)

    a 0-9 score is not encouraging.
    A SP can go further than congress. Ask scooter Libby.
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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    You won't get a special persecutor unless there is evidence somebody in the inner circle did something wrong. In the case of Scooter Libby, he told the FBI a falsehood.
    Which if the bush administration had followed today's liberal play book then no SP would have been ordered then either.
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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    can a special prosicuter make someone testfy when that person has already plead the 5th?

    and it is harder to convict someone of contempt of congress for simply pleading the fifth.



    Congress Holds Lois Lerner In Contempt In IRS Targeting Probe (UPDATE)

    a 0-9 score is not encouraging.
    A special prosecutor can get to the bottom of what happened, even if someone pleads the 5th, there are ways around that. This investigation isnt going to stop because one person pleads the 5th.

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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    She lost all credibility with me because the USA article clearly points to the Cincinnati, not Washington.

    Transcripts show IRS agents in Cincinnati -- not Washington -- flagged Tea Party cases

    Yeah because she was the Attorney Representing 10 different groups. Which.....you only know of 2 or 3 of them that made the news, huh? From Post 93.


    The politics of the IRS scandal.....


    Yet, it seemed immediately apparent to me that the IRS story overwhelms the other two in terms of the potential danger posed to the administration. Why? Because any American can easily understand the unfairness and fearsomeness of using the taxing power for partisan political purposes.

    But my confidence in these sorts of political assessments isn’t sky high these days. Thus, I was happy to read that Nate Silver also sees political resonance in the IRS scandal. He assesses the likely political fall-out from a scandal by asking the following five sensible questions:

    The long-and-short of Silver’s analysis of these questions is that “the I.R.S. story scores relatively high, meaning it could have a substantial political impact.”

    As to the first question, “simplicity seems to be on the Republicans’ side in the I.R.S. case in a way it hasn’t been on Benghazi.” As to the second, “the I.R.S. story has the potential to affect perceptions of the executive branch, the Democratic Party and the United States government as a whole, and Mr. Obama.” Similarly, as to the third, “when it comes to the grievances of Tea Party voters in particular, the I.R.S.’s actions could hardly be more substantively or symbolically resonant.”

    Fourth, Republicans face little risk of a backlash when they press the administration on the IRS’s conduct. It will be difficult to portray concern about IRS abuses as a partisan squabble. President Obama and other Democrats sense this, as is clear from their initial public reaction.

    Finally, does the IRS scandal arise in a slow news cycle? I would say no, given Benghazihate. But Silver argues that this puts Republicans in something of a no-lose position:.....snip~

    The politics of the IRS scandal | Power Line



    Big time trouble for the Demos, naughty naughty! .



    to affect perceptions of the executive branch, the Democratic Party and the United States government as a whole, and Mr. Obama.....snip~
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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Which if the bush administration had followed today's liberal play book then no SP would have been ordered then either.
    Wrong, Scooter Libby lied to the FBI (they call it false evidence). He told them Tim Russert told him about Valerie Plame. Unfortunately for him, Tim Russert testified before the GJ he did no such thing.


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