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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Why.....because there is no out as to this involving into more than what the Democrats say publicly? If there was nothing there.....they would have just ignored it and went on conducting business. Knowing they had nothing to worry about. Such was not the case.....as has been shown. See.....its when you put all the evidence and conflicting statements together. That one sees it is just isn't one specific issue.

    What I am not suppose to believe the footage they have of him standing in front of the cameras.....and now denying he ever had any contact. After they show him standing waving papers around and saying there whatever he could out of his mouth? Trying to Defend his party members.....when he should have been setting them out.
    How can democrats interfere in the investigation if the republicans are the majority on the Commitee.
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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The "new" information is a lie, from the conservative Washington Times which post #47 destroys.
    What you mean is you'd like that to be the case, as a coping mechanism.

    The timeline of the Internal Revenue Service targeting of conservative groups reveals nothing less than a scandal. It is a scandal that blew into public view a year ago this week and about which the press has been far from curious.

    In 2009, the president of the United States commented in a commencement address that the IRS would soon be auditing the president of the university and the Board of Regents for refusing to grant him an honorary degree. Supporters of the president dismissed critics who worried that the "joke" was a "dog whistle" intended to declare open season on the president's political opponents.

    In January 2010, the president in his State of the Union Address publicly berated the six Supreme Court justices in attendance for their decision in Citizens United, which held that the First Amendment prohibits the government from restricting independent political expenditures by corporations and labor unions.

    In the wake of Citizens United, many political groups formed in opposition to the president applied to the IRS for tax-exempt status under section 501(c)(4) of the tax code, which does not require the disclosure of donors. Senators of the president's party called on the IRS to investigate these groups.

    In March 2010, employees in the IRS branch office tasked with reviewing applications for tax-exempt status were instructed to give special scrutiny to certain applications for 501(c)(4) status, later memorialized in a "Be on the Look Out" (BOLO) list of targeted terms. Over the next two years, the IRS slow-walked the applications of many such groups, limiting their ability to participate in the 2010 and 2012 political campaigns.

    In March 2012, the IRS commissioner testified before a House committee that there was "absolutely no targeting" by the IRS of political organizations opposed to the president. The subcommittee chairman requested the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) to investigate. The IRS commissioner stepped down at the end of his term later that year.

    On May 10, 2013, four days before the public release of the TIGTA report, the IRS director Exempt Organization Director (IRS director) apologized for the "absolutely inappropriate" actions of low-level IRS branch office employees and denied any involvement by high-level IRS officials in Washington, D.C.

    On May 14, 2013, TIGTA publicly released its report detailing the IRS' inappropriate targeting of the president's political opponents. The president directed the secretary of the Treasury to hold accountable those IRS employees responsible for the targeting, and the attorney general announced that the Department of Justice would launch a criminal investigation. The following day, the acting IRS commissioner resigned.

    On May 22, 2013, the IRS director asserted her Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination and refused to testify before a House committee. She was placed on administrative leave. The following month, it was revealed that she received a $42,000 bonus. She retired in September.

    On Jan. 9, 2014, it was revealed that the Department of Justice attorney leading the investigation was a donor to the president's campaigns. A week later, the Justice Department revealed it would not bring any criminal charges. Attorneys for many of the targeted political groups complained that they had never been contacted in the investigation.

    On Feb. 2, 2014, the president stated in a televised interview before the Super Bowl that although there "were some bone-headed decisions out of a local (IRS) office ... (there was) not even a smidgen of corruption."

    On May 7, 2014, the House voted 231-187 to hold the former IRS director in contempt of Congress for refusing to cooperate in its investigation (six members of the president's party voted with the majority). The House also voted 250-168 to request the attorney general to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate (26 members of the president's party voted with the majority).

    To paraphrase Matthew McConaughey in A Time to Kill: Now imagine the president is a Republican.

    We've already seen that movie, and it was called Watergate.

    In that scandal, aggressive reporting by the media and thorough investigations by the FBI, Justice Department and a Senate Select Committee painstakingly uncovered the facts of the illegal break-in at the Democratic National Committee's headquarters months before the 1972 presidential election. One of the three articles of impeachment charged that President Nixon had attempted to use the IRS against his political opponents.

    Today's news media are largely ignoring the IRS scandal, and it is impossible to have confidence in the current investigations by the FBI, Justice Department, and House committee. I am not suggesting that the current scandal in the end will rise to the level of Watergate. But the allegations are serious, and fair-minded Americans of both parties should agree that a thorough investigation needs to be undertaken to either debunk them or confirm them.

    Step one should be to give Lois Lerner full immunity from prosecution in exchange for her testimony. And then let the chips fall where they may.
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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    In conducting an Investigation with live people one still has to talk to witnesses PB......whether a crime has or hasn't been committed. Wanna try another?
    No, I don't want to try another. Having the FBI investigate something is very expensive. You have to have something there. Besides nothing the IRS did was illegal. If they had enough personnel, they would have given every request scrutiny.


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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    What you mean is you'd like that to be the case, as a coping mechanism.



    The media ignore IRS scandal: Column
    If the media is ignoring the story why does this article exist?
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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I don't know where you get Congress didn't do its part. The House certainly has with little to no cooperation from this administration. Haven't you watched any of the multiple hearings on C-span? And that doesn't count for all the closed door hearings we are not privy to. Now mind you this has occurred in the House but Republicans are in control. In the Senate, under Democrat control, you mention the IRS scandal and they reply "what scandal?" But now that it has been revealed that Senator Levin, Democrat of Michigan and others Senate Democrats urged the IRS to intensify harassment of Conservative groups maybe they will be forced to investigate the members of that body.
    I know the congress is doing something, however they are an equal branch of government and they are acting like underlings. They have vast powers at their disposal to demand and obtain truth. They have been timid for political reasons, mainly political fear. Use subpoena power freely and often, with out patience is my suggestion..
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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

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    IRS, Sen. Carl Levin, And The Truth Behind Right-Wing Media's Latest Phony Conspiracy Theory | Research | Media Matters for America

    Right-wing media falsely claimed that newly released documents from Judicial Watch showed that Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) pressured the IRS to target conservative groups for additional scrutiny. Levin's letters simply show that he asked the IRS to hold both Democratic and Republican groups accountable to valid tax-exempt regulations, and he made his correspondence public record more than a year ago.
    IRS Target Practice - Smoking Gun Found in Senator Levin's Holster - Finance Post
    Beckmann: IRS scandal could entangle Sen. Carl Levin | The Detroit News
    Emails: Dem Sen Levin Pressured IRS To Target Conservative Groups

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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    What you mean is you'd like that to be the case, as a coping mechanism.



    The media ignore IRS scandal: Column
    That's an opinion column.


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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Let me set you straight, there is no Obama/IRS scandal and the following USA news article proves it. Seriously, you need to stick to your PhotoShop doings, at least they are entertaining.

    Transcripts show IRS agents in Cincinnati -- not Washington -- flagged Tea Party cases

    Pete ... you leave a whiff of desperation with your posts on this topic.

    There's no question that various Democrat Congresspeople were scared shotless of the Tea Party and "suggested" that the IRS review their applications for tax breaks.
    But you think the WH didn't know and that's your call.
    It does kinda follow given they say they had no idea about the Benghazi and VA scandals among others but I'm not at all sure that's something to be proud of ... or to believe.
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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    That's not true, it all depends upon what the group does as to how much scrutiny they receive. The test for 501(c)(4) is social welfare.
    Im sorry, but you aren't grasping the fundamentals of this case. In this case the amount of scrutiny depended on if they were conservative, or had conservative sounding names. This isnt terribly subtle, please read up.

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    Re: Judicial Watch: New Documents Show IRS HQ Control of Tea Party Targeting

    Opinions and wrong.

    IRS, Sen. Carl Levin, And The Truth Behind Right-Wing Media's Latest Phony Conspiracy Theory | Research | Media Matters for America

    Right-wing media falsely claimed that newly released documents from Judicial Watch showed that Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) pressured the IRS to target conservative groups for additional scrutiny. Levin's letters simply show that he asked the IRS to hold both Democratic and Republican groups accountable to valid tax-exempt regulations, and he made his correspondence public record more than a year ago.


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