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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Again, the article that was posted made no mention of surgery.
    Good point, but the article does not rule it out either (does not supply details regarding what is "acceptable treament").

    The article does, however, say that Manning wants to live as a woman. If "living as a woman" involves being assigned to a woman's prison, my guess is that he is going to need to be anatomically female- at least in the approximate sense of the word. This would involve surgery.

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    If it was affecting him so much mentally maybe he should of had the change when he was a free man instead of betraying his country?
    First of all she didn't betray her country. She did her country a service. Next of all it's inhumane to deny people psychological treatment that they need just because they are prisoners. Having said that, I think it's fair to debate what level of treatment is needed in this instance.

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    no i don't think tax payers should be on the hook for elective surgeries. if you want elective surgeries then that is on you.
    Again, for the umpteenth time, the article made no mention of surgery.

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    First of all she didn't betray her country. She did her country a service. Next of all it's inhumane to deny people psychological treatment that they need just because they are prisoners. Having said that, I think it's fair to debate what level of treatment is needed in this instance.
    She certaintly did betray her country unless of course the US military has changed its oath recently.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Again, for the umpteenth time, the article made no mention of surgery.
    i think you need to read the article again because he is wanting treatment to convert to a women.
    the military does not provide this nor should they. neither should a prison. these are elective surgeries. there is no reason that the taxpayer
    should be forced to pay for someone's elective surgery.

    let one of his family members start a donation if they wish. taxpayers should not be on the hook for something like this.

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    i think you need to read the article again because he is wanting treatment to convert to a women.
    the military does not provide this nor should they. neither should a prison. these are elective surgeries. there is no reason that the taxpayer
    should be forced to pay for someone's elective surgery.

    let one of his family members start a donation if they wish. taxpayers should not be on the hook for something like this.
    Show me in the article where it says she wants to or is going to have surgery. Maybe I missed it. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    She certaintly did betray her country unless of course the US military has changed its oath recently.
    No she didn't because she help expose the crimes and waste of taxpayer money that is going on in the name of fighting a so called war on terror.

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Show me in the article where it says she wants to or is going to have surgery. Maybe I missed it. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
    i just posted it thanks.
    just to let you know an aside if you will. it is a guy not a girl and no amount of surgery will change that fact.

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    i just posted it thanks.
    just to let you know an aside if you will. it is a guy not a girl and no amount of surgery will change that fact.
    I don't see where you posted it. It's just a bodily designation that is the result of the activity of the mind.

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    No she didn't because she help expose the crimes and waste of taxpayer money that is going on in the name of fighting a so called war on terror.
    Which isn't in her oath. You can't choose to become Robin Hood whenever you fancy it, as soon as you put on that uniform its game over for you. You are now a tool trained by the military, at the cost of the taxpayer and you WILL obey orders and follow your oath.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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