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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Let's hear your justification as to why taxpayer money should be used...
    Why taxpayer money should be used for what?

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Why taxpayer money should be used for what?
    Read post #185. My reply to that was that only an idiot would approve taxpayer money to accomplish nothing more than pleasing someone who wishes for different genitals.
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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Let's hear your justification as to why taxpayer money should be used...



    I'm not interested in justifying it.

    If you want to give it a shot, get after it.

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Read post #185. My reply to that was that only an idiot would approve taxpayer money to accomplish nothing more than pleasing someone who wishes for different genitals.
    Where does it say sexual reassignment surgery is going to be the treatment?

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Where does it say sexual reassignment surgery is going to be the treatment?
    It doesn't say surgery, and I didn't say that it did. The very first paragraph says the transfer is to allow the transition to woman. It later explicitly mentions that he has requested hormonal treatments. Whether it's the knife or needle, it's clearly only for his messed up ego and a waste of taxpayer money.
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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    It doesn't say surgery, and I didn't say that it did. The very first paragraph says the transfer is to allow the transition to woman. It later explicitly mentions that he has requested hormonal treatments. Whether it's the knife or needle, it's clearly only for his messed up ego and a waste of taxpayer money.
    So you admit there is a problem in the ego in this case. Do you think that prisoners psychological needs should be looked after with taxpayer money?

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    So you admit there is a problem in the ego in this case. Do you think that prisoners psychological needs should be looked after with taxpayer money?
    I would say yes, but it's pointless. The LGBT supporters will claim there's nothing wrong with him, hence refuse to try and fix him psychologically. So that would be a waste of money too.
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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    I would say yes, but it's pointless. The LGBT supporters will claim there's nothing wrong with him, hence refuse to try and fix him psychologically. So that would be a waste of money too.
    What type of treatment do you think would "fix" the problem? And just so I understand exactly what you are saying, why would your "fix" be a waste of money?

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What is that supposed to be? The Emancipation Proclamation?

    Pontification.
    Point is that you cannot change your gender with surgery and gender is not a mental constrict.

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Actually, legally speaking, Manning had a legal duty to expose war crimes (Bradley Manning's Legal Duty to Expose War Crimes
    Except that the boy did not expose war crimes, he exposed secrets and endangered national security.

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