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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    He can change his name...he cannot change his gender. It's nothing more the cosmetic surgery with hormone treatment added.
    Well I don't want debate gender because it's very complicated. What I will say is that gender is a mental construct, and as that is the case, it's feasible that some sort of psychological adjustments would be appropriate for someone experiencing such dysphoria. And as it's humane to see to the psychological well being of prisoners, this person needs to have her psychological needs taken care of. Now exactly how to go about doing that, I really don't know.

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    There is no such thing as sexual re-assignment surgery....its nothing but cosmetic surgery and hormone treatments.
    OK, I'm not going to try to prove that false. But what I will say is that gender is a mental construct. That is certain.

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I never asked, and you see treason as a service...so you can guess what I think.
    I don't agree that it's treason.

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Man oh man oh man. Reading some of the comments in this thread feels like stepping into a time machine, going back to the "good old days" where gays were freaks, blacks weren't really people, and women needed to be disciplined like children. Mark my words, if you people spew this **** in the year 2050, you are going to look as civilized as the Westboro Baptist Church does now.

    Whether Chelsea Manning is a traitor is an issue that I will let lie for the time being.
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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Man oh man oh man. Reading some of the comments in this thread feels like stepping into a time machine, going back to the "good old days" where gays were freaks, blacks weren't really people, and women needed to be disciplined like children. Mark my words, if you people spew this **** in the year 2050, you are going to look as civilized as the Westboro Baptist Church does now.

    Whether Chelsea Manning is a traitor is an issue that I will let lie for the time being.
    I know what you mean. People say we are going forward, but sometimes, I don't know.

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I know what you mean. People say we are going forward, but sometimes, I don't know.
    We're doing pretty well on the LGB in LGBT rights. The "T" has a lot of work left to be done.
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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Man oh man oh man. Reading some of the comments in this thread feels like stepping into a time machine, going back to the "good old days" where gays were freaks, blacks weren't really people, and women needed to be disciplined like children. Mark my words, if you people spew this **** in the year 2050, you are going to look as civilized as the Westboro Baptist Church does now.

    Whether Chelsea Manning is a traitor is an issue that I will let lie for the time being.
    IIRC nobody knew about his transgender issues until he was on trial. He wasn't exactly popular before hand either.

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    IIRC nobody knew about his
    Stopped reading right there. Why should you expect me to listen to what you say when you won't even accept who Manning is?
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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Stopped reading right there. Why should you expect me to listen to what you say when you won't even accept who Manning is?
    Spare me the drama. Hes a male anatomically and genetically. Im not going to do your liberal PC dance.

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    Re: Pentagon pushes Manning transfer for gender treatment

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Spare me the drama. Hes a male anatomically and genetically. Im not going to do your liberal PC dance.
    Then we are at an impasse. You've chosen not to listen to me, and I've chosen not to listen to you.
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