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Feds released hundreds of immigrant murderers, drunk drivers, sex-crimes convicts

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Immigration officials knowingly released dozens of murderers and thousands of drunken drivers back into the U.S. in 2013, according to Obama administration statistics that could undercut the president’s argument that he is trying to focus on the most serious criminals in his immigration enforcement.
Among the 36,000 immigrants whom U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement released from custody last year there were 116 with convictions for homicide, 43 for negligent manslaughter, 14 for voluntary manslaughter and one with a conviction classified by ICE as “homicide-willful kill-public official-gun.”


Read more: Feds released hundreds of immigrant murderers, drunken drivers, sex-crimes convicts - Washington Times
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I think we know who to blame when crimes are committed yet again by these undocumented democrats.
 
Someone needs to hire Dog.
 
Someone needs to hire Dog.

Perhaps Obama actually wants the dems to lose the senate. It might mitigate all the fail up to this point, he might think. Or perhaps he's hoping to energize hispanic voters.

Someone is going to get hurt because he did this.
 
Apparently, the chart was made by 'The Center for Immigration Studies' that has close ties to white supremacy groups...and a eugenics foundation. I don't think that bodes well for the charts data......


The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) published reports in 2002[25] and 2009[26] claiming to connect CIS to John Tanton, who helped found various other organizations, including the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) and NumbersUSA, and alleging that he has ties to white supremacy groups and a eugenics foundation.

The SPLC's 2009 report charged: [26]

FAIR, CIS and NumbersUSA are all part of a network of restrictionist organizations conceived and created by John Tanton, the "puppeteer" of the nativist movement and a man with deep racist roots ... CIS was conceived by Tanton and began life as a program of FAIR. CIS presents itself as a scholarly think tank that produces serious immigration studies meant to serve "the broad national interest." But the reality is that CIS has never found any aspect of immigration that it liked, and it has frequently manipulated data to achieve the results it seeks....<snip>....

2007: Stephen Dinan, the Washington Times author received an award from the Center for Immigration Studies.

Center for Immigration Studies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Gee, no bias there. I'd hate to think CIS is just looking for an excuse to hunt down and murder immigrants.
 
Perhaps Obama actually wants the dems to lose the senate. It might mitigate all the fail up to this point, he might think. Or perhaps he's hoping to energize hispanic voters.

Someone is going to get hurt because he did this.

Just like they're getting hurt by illegal aliens that haven't been apprehended.
 
Apparently, the chart was made by 'The Center for Immigration Studies' that has close ties to white supremacy groups...and a eugenics foundation. I don't think that bodes well for the charts data......




Center for Immigration Studies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Gee, no bias there. I'd hate to think CIS is just looking for an excuse to hunt down and murder immigrants.

Wait, are you disputing the stats, which were provided by ICE? If so, kindly provide your evidence, I await your links.

In the mean time, why did Obama decide to release violent criminals? What happens when someone gets hurt by these people?
 
Just like they're getting hurt by illegal aliens that haven't been apprehended.

Tragically yes, Ive been a Paramedic working in parts of southern california with large populations of illegal immigrants, including the coachella valley, home to "sanctuary cities". Can't tell you how many times someone was hurt or killed, and this was on the outside, I'd be surprised if it wasn't worse with inmates.
 
just looking for an excuse to hunt down and murder immigrants.

How about the largest invasion in U.S. history? How about the fact that there are swaths of the border that are wide-open and with who knows what coming through? How about the fact that it is illegal and a violation of U.S. sovereignty?

The Southern Border should be Israelized: if they climb on the fence they get shot, if they try to tunnel they get flooded or shot, etc. It's better to set this infrastructure up long before we're forced to do it after one or several of our cities and therefore our nation is reeling from a terrorist attack.
 
Tragically yes, Ive been a Paramedic working in parts of southern california with large populations of illegal immigrants, including the coachella valley, home to "sanctuary cities". Can't tell you how many times someone was hurt or killed, and this was on the outside, I'd be surprised if it wasn't worse with inmates.

Prisons are a living Hell. Not that I have sympathy for the ****heads in there, but the level of degeneration is Hell like.
 
Immigration officials knowingly released dozens of murderers and thousands of drunken drivers back into the U.S. in 2013
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This is true. I looked out my window this morning and I can confirm it.

The article failed to mention how many dog rapers were released.

Do you know where your dog is right now ?
 
Wait, are you disputing the stats, which were provided by ICE? If so, kindly provide your evidence, I await your links.

In the mean time, why did Obama decide to release violent criminals? What happens when someone gets hurt by these people?

The OP looks like the same story that was debunked back in March.....


Fox Uses Misleading Report From Anti-Immigrant Group To Stoke Fears Of Violent Undocumented Immigrants
American Immigration Council: "New Report from Center for Immigration Studies on Deportation Data Misleads and Misinforms."

The American Immigration Council's executive Director, Benjamin Johnson, denounced the CIS report in a March 31 press release:

A new report from the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) makes a range of false claims about deportation data. First their claim that out of 722,000 "potentially deportable aliens" encountered by Immigration and Customs Enforcement only 195,000 were charged is completely misleading. As a result of dragnet programs like Secure Communities, any foreign-born individual that that comes into contact with law-enforcement likely falls into 722,000 number cited by CIS. Thus, this number includes immigrants (including long time permanent residents) whose interaction with law enforcement was so minor that they are not even legally subject to removal. In fact, that data likely includes U.S. citizens as well. [...]

Furthermore, the report claims ICE "released" 68,000 "criminal aliens" yet fails to explain that being released is not the equivalent of being set-free. Being released from ICE custody often means being issued a notice to appear in court, released with an ankle bracelet or released under an order of supervision. These details were conveniently left out of the CIS analysis.

Understanding deportation data is important in the current debate over immigration reform. However, reports full of false and misleading data do nothing to move the discussion forward and pave the way for further polarization and inaction. [American Immigration Council, 3/31/14]

Bipartisan Policy Center: Deportations Of Undocumented Immigrants With Criminal Records Have Nearly Doubled.

A March 13 issue brief released by the Bipartisan Policy Institute reported that "since 2008, the share of deported immigrants that ICE classifies as 'criminal aliens' has nearly doubled from 31 percent to 59 percent."




So the deportation of immigrants with criminal records nearly doubled, eh? Is it possible that they were the same immigrants that were 'released'? Because the dates and stats seem to fit.
 
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The OP looks like the same story that was debunked back in March.....


Fox Uses Misleading Report From Anti-Immigrant Group To Stoke Fears Of Violent Undocumented Immigrants







So the deportation of immigrants with criminal records nearly doubled, eh? Is it possible that they were the same immigrants that were 'released'? Because the dates and stats seem to fit.

Did you read the article I posted? The stats do not fit, not at all. Find me ANY that do, please. Just copy and paste, and highlight.
And its interesting you link to media matters to make your case, not exactly leg work, is it? I think youre just coasting in your attempt to discredit. Its not working. Also, I wonder if you have figured out that fox news is not cited in my OP, I have no idea why you continue to mention it here.
 
Apparently, the chart was made by 'The Center for Immigration Studies' that has close ties to white supremacy groups...and a eugenics foundation. I don't think that bodes well for the charts data......




Center for Immigration Studies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Gee, no bias there. I'd hate to think CIS is just looking for an excuse to hunt down and murder immigrants.

Come on Moot, Wiki and the SPLC a radical leftist hate group.

Congress seems not to have a problem with the CIS testifying in Congress since they are considered more knowledgable on immigration matters than anyone else in America.

From your own Wiki link talk page.


The SPLC and IRC claims

>"Neither the SPLC nor IRC provide evidence of their claim. As such, it must be identified as a claim, not proof of that claim. To identify it as a claim is not an ad hominem."<

>" You should be aware that the SPLC article that you referenced in the article claims or, to be generous, insinuates very strongly that FAIR is in bed with Neo-Nazis. By then linking CIS with FAIR, they are seeking to damn CIS by association. The SPLC article is an attack piece plain and simple and it provides no source for any of its claims for CIS"<

>"We require that our sources be reliable. An unsourced claim by a left wing political activist group who has been accused by other, third party, sources of working to overinflate the number of political racist groups is hardly a reliable source."<

>"The source for saying that CIS is nonpartisan is Time magazine's Special Investigation "Who left the door open?" dated Sept 12, 2004. I don't know how to reference it in the article, however"<

>"Two third party sources, Harper's Magazine and Montgomery Advertiser, have independently shown that the SPLC, though it claims to be about ending racism, practices insitutionalized racism. One of those investigations was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize. That makes the SPLC unethical. They also (among other sources) showed that the SPLC, despite being a non-profit, is highly profit driven. That not only makes the SPLC unethical, it makes the SPLC money-grubbing. The SPLC provides no support for its claim written here. That claim is supports the SPLC's agenda. So, we have an unethical, money-grubbing organization making a statement which supports its agenda. Do you really want to make the claim that it is anywhere near the same level as a reliable source as a third party neutral source?"<

>"Regarding the horse the SPLC has in this, they were identified as "the Jim and Tammy Faye Baker of the civil rights movement" (that's a quote from Millard Farmer, the famous death penalty defense lawyer). They stir up fear, get millions of dollars in donations, and spend two-thirds of that money on "administrative expenses". For more on the SPLC's "horse" in stirring up fear and riding the donations to fight it all the way to the bank..."<
Talk:Center for Immigration Studies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Its 11pm, do you know where your dog is? :lol:

three or four years ago on the Politico community forum I started a thread about that. Dogs being raped by illegal aliens. I made no comment, just listed about fifty different links to news stations and news paper articles about dog rapes by illegal aliens.

More than a few on the Politico got their panties all bunched up and the abuse tab was hit over 100 times. The Politico staff removed my thread. I made my argument that all the thread is are links to fifty different dogs that were raped by illegal aliens that were covered in news broadcast or newspaper articles. It's all legit. I prevailed and the thread was put back up.

My "Mexican Rape Tree" thread wasn't so lucky. It was removed because some liberals were offended of the photos of trees along the U.S. - Mexican border where young Mexican illegal alien girls were raped by their Mexican coyotes and their panties were hung on trees as trophies.

The same rapist that Obama released the Democrats want to award with amnesty.
 
three or four years ago on the Politico community forum I started a thread about that. Dogs being raped by illegal aliens. I made no comment, just listed about fifty different links to news stations and news paper articles about dog rapes by illegal aliens.

More than a few on the Politico got their panties all bunched up and the abuse tab was hit over 100 times. The Politico staff removed my thread. I made my argument that all the thread is are links to fifty different dogs that were raped by illegal aliens that were covered in news broadcast or newspaper articles. It's all legit. I prevailed and the thread was put back up.

My "Mexican Rape Tree" thread wasn't so lucky. It was removed because some liberals were offended of the photos of trees along the U.S. - Mexican border where young Mexican illegal alien girls were raped by their Mexican coyotes and their panties were hung on trees as trophies.

The same rapist that Obama released the Democrats want to award with amnesty.

Yup, its amazing what people dont know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VKWLC87Uzw
 
immigration-1_s640x517.jpg


Immigration officials knowingly released dozens of murderers and thousands of drunken drivers back into the U.S. in 2013,
according to Obama administration statistics that could undercut the president’s argument that he is trying to focus on the most serious criminals in his immigration enforcement.
Among the 36,000 immigrants whom U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement released from custody last year there were 116 with convictions for homicide, 43 for negligent manslaughter, 14 for voluntary manslaughter and one with a conviction classified by ICE as “homicide-willful kill-public official-gun.”


Read more: Feds released hundreds of immigrant murderers, drunken drivers, sex-crimes convicts - Washington Times
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

I think we know who to blame when crimes are committed yet again by these undocumented democrats.




Just in case anyone doesn't know. right now there are about 2.3 million people locked up in prison in the USA.

Since only a small percentage of those people are locked up for life, eventually most of them will walk out of prison.

THEIR PRISON TERM WAS DETERMINED BY A JUDGE AND JURY.

When that term is over with they will walk out of prison.

And that has nothing to do with who's the president of the USA.

Deal with it.
 
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Just in case anyone doesn't know. right now there are about 2.3 million people locked up in prison in the USA.

Since only a small percentage of those people are locked up for life, eventually most of them will walk out of prison.

THEIR PRISON TERM WAS DETERMINED BY A JUDGE AND JURY.

And that has nothing to do with who's the president of the USA.

Deal with it.

ICE, a dept under the Obama administration, states it does not need to keep many of these people, many of whom are violent offenders. On his watch, these people are let out, I wonder how many more crimes have been committed?

Obama wants it both ways-he wanted to appear hard on illegal immigration by claiming that record numbers were being deported by him, what he didnt mention-is he changed what was considered a deportation, to inflate his numbers.

At the same time, Obama hasn't delivered to immigrant groups who want an amnesty, this type of thing might be to get them riled up in time for november. Frankly, I dont expect much more from Obama.
 
I'm sure you remember the stories of the Blue Ox bar in TJ and the donkey shows. Freakin unbelievable.

I wonder how many donkey shows are going on tonight in L.A. ?

I had always heard about it, and even saw flyers for them, but I never went. Im not a fan of TJ, its filthy and chaotic. I much prefer Ensenada, though mexicali has its charm as well. Ive been wanting to get down to san felipe, to do some fishing in the gulf of baja.
 
I had always heard about it, and even saw flyers for them, but I never went. Im not a fan of TJ, its filthy and chaotic. I much prefer Ensenada, though mexicali has its charm as well. Ive been wanting to get down to san felipe, to do some fishing in the gulf of baja.

I spent a week down in San Felipe fishing back in the 80's. Caught a couple of dorado.

Technically I got deported from Mexico back in 73. But I don't think the Mexican government knows how to keep records.

Scuttlebutt is, there might be a big El Nino next winter. If true and the waters warm up enough, you can catch Dorado as far north as off of Orange County and Santa Catalina Island.
 
I spent a week down in San Felipe fishing back in the 80's. Caught a couple of dorado.

Technically I got deported from Mexico back in 73. But I don't think the Mexican government knows how to keep records.

Scuttlebutt is, there might be a big El Nino next winter. If true and the waters warm up enough, you can catch Dorado as far north as off of Orange County and Santa Catalina Island.

Really? Thats something im very interested in. IIRC, dont warm spells bring up marlin as well?
 
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