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Feds released hundreds of immigrant murderers, drunk drivers, sex-crimes convicts

Sure does.

So you're one of the big boys who troll for billfish ?

Not yet, but Im getting into saltwater fishing, for the most part ive been a freshwater fisherman. Im getting back into saltwater, and am planning a trip with a buddy in the bay area. Then again, I could live like a king for a week in baja.

Hemingway used to troll the gulf of mexico, he actually convinced the military to get him sub sensing equipment and he spent much of ww2 "searching" for nazi subs. In reality, he got wasted and fished. At one point, after pulling a marlin onboard that still had plenty of fight, he shot himself with his tommy gun. :lol:

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ICE, a dept under the Obama administration, states it does not need to keep many of these people, many of whom are violent offenders. On his watch, these people are let out, I wonder how many more crimes have been committed?

Obama wants it both ways-he wanted to appear hard on illegal immigration by claiming that record numbers were being deported by him, what he didnt mention-is he changed what was considered a deportation, to inflate his numbers.

At the same time, Obama hasn't delivered to immigrant groups who want an amnesty, this type of thing might be to get them riled up in time for november.
Frankly, I dont expect much more from Obama.




When do you expect to see the next Republican in the White House?

I predict that won't happen anytime soon.

Wait and see.




Oh, and have a nice day.
 
When do you expect to see the next Republican in the White House?

I predict that won't happen anytime soon.

Wait and see.




Oh, and have a nice day.

This is unfortunately true...the GOP is pretty much doing everything wrong so far to gain the White House.

They need to put duct tape over Carl Roves mouth as well.
 
I heard a stat that says that there are 800,000 people who have been designated for deportation that are still on the streets. I can't comment on the other data, but if someone has actually been ordered out of the country, then GTFO.
 
Well, those released might go home, since there's no jobs. Going home might be better than prison to some.
 
Wait, are you disputing the stats, which were provided by ICE? If so, kindly provide your evidence, I await your links.

In the mean time, why did Obama decide to release violent criminals? What happens when someone gets hurt by these people?

Were the stats provided by ICE, or did the CIS tell you they were provided by ICE?
 
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Immigration officials knowingly released dozens of murderers and thousands of drunken drivers back into the U.S. in 2013, according to Obama administration statistics that could undercut the president’s argument that he is trying to focus on the most serious criminals in his immigration enforcement.
Among the 36,000 immigrants whom U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement released from custody last year there were 116 with convictions for homicide, 43 for negligent manslaughter, 14 for voluntary manslaughter and one with a conviction classified by ICE as “homicide-willful kill-public official-gun.”


Read more: Feds released hundreds of immigrant murderers, drunken drivers, sex-crimes convicts - Washington Times
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I think we know who to blame when crimes are committed yet again by these undocumented democrats.

This is only valid if it is compared to other years and administrations.. else it is partisan bull**** from a racist organisation.
 
When do you expect to see the next Republican in the White House?

I predict that won't happen anytime soon.

Wait and see.




Oh, and have a nice day.
ROTFLOL... What circus act are the Demokrats going to find for 2016? They can't run on issues... they need circus acts.
 
Apparently, the chart was made by 'The Center for Immigration Studies' that has close ties to white supremacy groups...and a eugenics foundation. I don't think that bodes well for the charts data......




Center for Immigration Studies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Gee, no bias there. I'd hate to think CIS is just looking for an excuse to hunt down and murder immigrants.

Is it really a surprise to you that "conservatives" would prop up a racist to support their argument....do you think the op was blind to this fact?



Know Your Sources: The Mainstream Press Keeps Finding Wacky Immigration “Experts”
Most Americans have never heard of John Tanton because he operates behind the scenes, but he is the founder and/or early funder of almost every national anti-immigrant organization in the country, including at least a dozen groups. By his own admission, Tanton’s creations include the largest and best known of the national anti-immigrant organizations: NumbersUSA and FAIR, which stands for the Federation for American Immigration Reform.
Tanton also publishes Camp of the Saints, a racist screed that uses fiction to warn white Europeans about an impending invasion of immigrants from India who will overrun the government, kidnap white women and make them into prostitutes.

Dig just a little deeper and they would find what the Southern Poverty Law Center reports—that Tanton received large sums of early money for FAIR from the Pioneer Fund, possibly the last remaining funder of eugenics in the country.
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/immigration/news/2007/09/19/3519/know-your-sources-the-mainstream-press-keeps-finding-wacky-immigration-experts/
 
I think we know who to blame when crimes are committed yet again by these undocumented democrats.[/QUOTE]

Well, crimes are committed by convicted felons probably every minute of every day. That's because we release people from prison, including illegals. I'm not sure why it should be shocking that drunk drivers who are illegals are released from prison, when citizens are arrested by the dozens in my city every weekend night and few spend more than the evening in jail. I suppose we could jail them all till deportation, but we'd have to build a lot more prisons, and then pay maybe $30k/year to house them all. What's a few $billion more per year to house more prisoners?

The article explains why 3/4s of the murderers were released - the Supreme Court requires their release. As to the remainder - we're VERY good at imprisoning illegals who commit crimes in the U.S. Roughly 1/4 of our Federal prison population is foreign born, some unknown percentage an illegal immigrant. But we can and do imprison 10s of thousands of non-citizens. So it's not very likely the 'convicted murderers' were people who shot their wife, was picked up by ICE, then released because Obama [something something]. Hard to tell from the story because they didn't try very hard to find out why we'd release murderers when we have the largest prison population on the planet, and imprison more per capita than any country on the planet, including without hesitation non-citizens.

I guess the answer is build more prison? Could be. The prison lobby pushed very hard for 3 strikes laws and for the 'papers please' laws in AZ and elsewhere. Growth industry!

I suppose we could hold them all indefinitely for years, or we could just do the deportations without hearings - round up anyone who looks like an undocumented and bus them to Mexico City or something.
 
ROTFLOL... What circus act are the Demokrats going to find for 2016? They can't run on issues... they need circus acts.

That's funny. What issues are the GOPers going to run on? Tax cuts for Romney to pay for Medicare cuts for grandma? Eliminate the minimum wage? Bring back child labor? Repeal the ACA and replace it with nothing? The economic benefits of unchecked pollution?
 
Did you read the article I posted? The stats do not fit, not at all. Find me ANY that do, please. Just copy and paste, and highlight.
And its interesting you link to media matters to make your case, not exactly leg work, is it? I think youre just coasting in your attempt to discredit. Its not working. Also, I wonder if you have figured out that fox news is not cited in my OP, I have no idea why you continue to mention it here.
Um, the WT story is referencing the same story that MM debunked, they are both referencing the Jessica Vaughn report she wrote on the 2013 ICE numbers.

Apparently you have not read any of the articles, even the ones you cite.
 
They have been goose-stepping to the right wing a lot lately...and liberals do not goose-step.

Sure they do - maybe liberals call it something else as they're all about obfuscation with language.
 
Sure they do - maybe liberals call it something else as they're all about obfuscation with language.
The irony, you want to use the pejorative "goose-stepping" (describing and most commonly referencing NAZI military marching) for liberals, whereas it applies, inherently, to the right-wing.

But go on and argue that the Nazis were/are left-wing, it will be a further sophomoric hilarity.
 
From the OP's link:

"In a statement, ICE said many of those it released were subject to electronic monitoring, posting bond or having to check in with officers.

In other cases, the agency was required to release immigrants because of court decisions, including a 2001 Supreme Court ruling that found immigrants whose home countries refused to take them back could not be held for more than six months.

ICE said 75 percent of the convicted murderers released in 2013 were considered “mandatory releases” in compliance with court decisions.

“Others, typically those with less serious offenses, were released as a discretionary matter after career law enforcement officers made a judgment regarding the priority of holding the individual, given ICE’s resources, and prioritizing the detention and removal of individuals who pose a risk to public safety or national security,” ICE said."

Read more: Feds released hundreds of immigrant murderers, drunken drivers, sex-crimes convicts - Washington Times

My attempts to find the actual figures from ICE were not fruitful. None of the conservative media outlets repeating this story includes a link to ICE's statistics. I doubt that this story is accurate.
 
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Did you read the article I posted? The stats do not fit, not at all. Find me ANY that do, please. Just copy and paste, and highlight.
And its interesting you link to media matters to make your case, not exactly leg work, is it? I think youre just coasting in your attempt to discredit. Its not working. Also, I wonder if you have figured out that fox news is not cited in my OP, I have no idea why you continue to mention it here.

You are making the claim, You should provide a link to the statistics from ICE, not an anti-immigrant advocacy group.
 
That's funny. What issues are the GOPers going to run on? Tax cuts for Romney to pay for Medicare cuts for grandma? Eliminate the minimum wage? Bring back child labor? Repeal the ACA and replace it with nothing? The economic benefits of unchecked pollution?

Ahhhhhhhhh... LOL... spoken like a true Obamist.
 
Ahhhhhhhhh... LOL... spoken like a true Obamist.

I was just asking a question. Point was I don't see much of a positive agenda coming from the right wing, except protecting the interests of the big money supporting them. The RINO wing asks, "What would the National Chamber of Commerce Do?" and the Tea party wing, "What would the Koch Brothers Do?" That's the agenda as far as I can tell.
 
I was just asking a question. Point was I don't see much of a positive agenda coming from the right wing, except protecting the interests of the big money supporting them. The RINO wing asks, "What would the National Chamber of Commerce Do?" and the Tea party wing, "What would the Koch Brothers Do?" That's the agenda as far as I can tell.

LOL... you mouthed typical Marxist BS, and continued.

What is it about freedom folks like you fail to understand? Freedom from government. You know... Liberty. The ability to live without the hounds of the state reaching in your pocket, or constantly looking over your shoulder?

What is it that folks fail to understand about equality under the law? Equality... not of income, not socialist redistribution, but equal... under... the... law?

What is it about folks who think government's role is as a conduit to steal wealth and "spread it around"?

What is it about folks who believe in the government tooth fairy and their Ponzi/Madoff Schemes? Schemes that always fail miserably.

What is it... that has people give up their freedoms?
 
The more Obama slips into utter insanity, the more I find myself drawn the Radical Music of the 1960s... it just somehow seems to fit the Obama-Nation.



"Purple Haze"

Purple Haze was in my brain,
lately things don't seem the same,
actin' funny but I don't know why
'scuse me while I kiss the sky.

Purple Haze all around,
don't know if I'm coming up or down.
Am I happy or in misery?
Whatever it is, that girl put a spell on me.

Purple Haze was in my eyes,
don't know if it's day or night,
you've got me blowing, blowing my mind
is it tomorrow or just the end of time?

- Jimi Hendrix


Obama and his Leftie Radical Crew must be doing some damn strong drugs!

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LOL... you mouthed typical Marxist BS, and continued.

What is it about freedom folks like you fail to understand? Freedom from government. You know... Liberty. The ability to live without the hounds of the state reaching in your pocket, or constantly looking over your shoulder?

What is it that folks fail to understand about equality under the law? Equality... not of income, not socialist redistribution, but equal... under... the... law?

What is it about folks who think government's role is as a conduit to steal wealth and "spread it around"?

What is it about folks who believe in the government tooth fairy and their Ponzi/Madoff Schemes? Schemes that always fail miserably.

What is it... that has people give up their freedoms?

So the agenda is liberty, freedom and apple pie? Great! You've convinced me! Where do I sign?
 
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