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    Re: Judge strikes down Idaho's same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    again kinda why we have a constitution to keep an even ship of state when 'the will of the people' threaten to capsize it.

    Now when it comes to killing folks with mental illness, 'no function in life', and feel a race is superior.... Ummm i didn't realize the nazis were democratic or for that matter socialists. Don't they hold the record for killing folks due to mental defect, sexual orientation, race and religion????

    President wilson may have thought white folks superior but i can't recall any 't-4' program during his administration...



    if you give 1 person all power...he will become a king, and a tyrant

    if you give a few people all the power they will become and oligarchy, and rule the people like they are serfs

    if you give the people all power , the 51% will control the 49% and rule over them taking away their rights......history has shown this to be true.

    So you divide power into 2 half's, and no one has all the power to become a tyrant...because they don't have all power

    everything i said is true about progressive in their early movement.
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    Re: Judge strikes down Idaho's same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    And Roosevelt, another Progressive icon, put US Citizens in concentration camps during WWII just for being of Japanese descent. Ordered that the FBI detain or imprison thousands of US Citizens for being of German descent.

    Yep, great American Presidents... great Progressives.
    and took over state powers, and gave us unlimited government which is growing every day, and taking away rights of the people, because no power is left to stop them accept the court.

    Madison stated the senate was the first bulwark against unconstitutional actions. and the court the second...the first is gone!

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    Re: Judge strikes down Idaho's same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    and took over state powers, and gave us unlimited government which is growing every day, and taking away rights of the people, because no power is left to stop them accept the court.

    Madison stated the senate was the first bulwark against unconstitutional actions. and the court the second...the first is gone!
    I blame the Republican Progressive from Kansas for it (Senator Joseph L. Bristow).

    Him and another Progressive, William Randolph Hearst, for using his First Amendment power and his millions of dollars to publish fictional stories in major newspapers and magazines of how the Senate was corrupt and the only way to fix it was Direct Elections, which has lead to real corruption and control by money (lobbyists). Ironic as hell isn't it.

    Yet another example of Progressive propaganda before it was even called by it's real name.

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    Re: Judge strikes down Idaho's same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    I blame the Republican Progressive from Kansas for it (Senator Joseph L. Bristow).

    Him and another Progressive, William Randolph Hearst, for using his First Amendment power and his millions of dollars to publish fictional stories in major newspapers and magazines of how the Senate was corrupt and the only way to fix it was Direct Elections, which has lead to real corruption and control by money (lobbyists). Ironic as hell isn't it.

    Yet another example of Progressive propaganda before it was even called by it's real name.
    yes, with the 17th we got a more democratic government, and you get many factious combinations [special interest], controlling government.

    the government is run under the guise of a democracy, power in only 1, however the power that controls , is the elites..who seduce and beguile and persuades the public in doing things which are not in their interest.

    Madison states this in the federalist .... taking about the senate in 62 and 63

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    Re: Judge strikes down Idaho's same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Won't survive appeals.
    It is hard for me to get excited about these rulings. The ones that have made it to arguments on appeals are very split. It comes down to a Bill of Rights versus Federalism debate on Windsor. The states' rights argument is the most and only compelling argument made by supporters of these bans but it may be enough.
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    Re: Idaho same-sex marriage ban overturned in federal court

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    Re: Judge strikes down Idaho's same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    lets put this into perspective...


    in many parts of america, local referendums have been used to take away rights of property owners, to want to have smoking in their business [ creating a local law]......this is what is know as direct referendum or direct democracy

    and it has been applauded by the left....is using this sort of action.

    this story deals with a state referendum, in which the whole state voted.......meaning the whole state used direct democracy to institute a constitutional amendment to the state......and the left is against it?


    so much for democracy .when the left does not like it!


    i myself say that direct democracy is a terrible thing [referendums], the founders hated them because it did not secure the rights of individuals citizens....as we see with smoking bans......and you saw with a constitutional amendment.
    Oh i forgot in this case you think the "left" is the only people who use referendums. Tell me again about Prop 13 in Cali...


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    Re: Judge strikes down Idaho's same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's only the people when they agree with him, otherwise it's the force of government. Like any good socialist.
    Sexuality issues now equate socialism? You do realize socialism is an economic policy right?


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    Re: Judge strikes down Idaho's same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, you misunderstand. Laws against SSM base their restrictions on gender, not orientation. Men are not allowed to marry men, and women are not allowed to marry women. No state has a law in place that I know of preventing gay people to get married. Using misleading terms leads to faulty arguments.
    Either way, equal protection means just that, equal protection. The States cannot deny a Right based on gender anymore than they can deny a Right based on orientation.
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    Re: Judge strikes down Idaho's same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    my question to you is:

    are you not one one the people on this forum who believes democracy and "will of the people"

    since this is a constitutional amendment which the people approved of........
    A state constitutional amendment can not infringe on the rights of Americans. State rights for state issues.


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