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    Re: Judge strikes down Idaho's same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    CORRECT.... THEY LOVE DEMOCRACY BECAUSE AS MARX SAID.."IT IS THE ROAD TO SOCIALISM".....BUT WHEN THEY FIND THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE GOES AGAINST THEM, THEY HATE DEMOCRACY.

    early progressives like Wilson was a racist who fired all blacks in the federal government, segregated the military again....

    they believed in killing people who severe no function in life, and the mentally ill, and called for eugenics, and a superior race of people.
    Learning the real purpose of their movement would be a bitch slap to most of them. But, their own movements history, purpose and ultimate impact on our country isn't the only thing most Progressive are clueless about.

    But that's just my opinion.

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    Re: Judge strikes down Idaho's same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) nothing is misunderstood i understood exactly what you are saying but the distinction unfortunately is still needed until equal rights is for all. Currently it has to have some type of identifyer but i agree it shouldnt needed it.
    It does have an identifier, and one that accurately defines it: same sex marriage. That is what these laws ban, and that is what is being ruled in favor of.

    2.) again never said they had no right to regulate it if you disagree qoute me saying otherwise. In fact i could find many posts where i say they can do some regulations as long as it doesnt violateidividiual rights.

    and thats why this current issue and topic is factually not a state issue. Many of the judgments have even stated this because it violated rights(unconstitutional) therefore negating the states rights because states rights dont get to do that. (violate the constitution)

    now as far as costs or papers needing signed etc THOSE are states issue and not the discussion here and nothign to do with what i actually said
    May statement has stated in content stands.
    Sating states can regulate it but it is not a state's issue is really silly. Have you ever bothered to ****ing read any of the rulings or arguments? At it's heart, the issue is states rights vs federal power of the constitution. You cannot take states rights out of it.
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    Re: Judge strikes down Idaho's same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Learning the real purpose of their movement would be a bitch slap to most of them. But, their own movements history, purpose and ultimate impact on our country isn't the only thing most Progressive are clueless about.

    But that's just my opinion.
    when you confront them with early progressives who openly called for people to be killed....calling for it on film...they deny it and will not breech the subject anymore

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    Re: Judge strikes down Idaho's same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Except the constitution is fundamentally a document about natural rights. Which is why there is conflict between left and right. Progressives conservatives, free market and socialist. One side sees rights as inalienable, the other as edicts granted. And that goes to the heart of this.
    You really love to label people instead of arguing ideas.

    Ummm...marriage is considered under the law of the US to be a "fundamental right". Nothing you are saying has anything to actually do with this case.
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    Re: Judge strikes down Idaho's same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    when you confront them with early progressives who openly called for people to be killed....calling for it on film...they deny it and will not breech the subject anymore
    Propaganda was originally created and used by Wilson, as a way to mold public opinion through misinformation. Who is still an icon of the modern Progressive movement.

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    Re: Judge strikes down Idaho's same-sex marriage ban

    Here is a nice little summary of the ruling: Idaho same-sex marriage ban nullified : SCOTUSblog

    Judge Dale’s ruling was the eleventh by a federal trial judge to nullify a state ban on same-sex marriage. And, like the others, she relied to a considerable degree on the reasoning of the Supreme Court last June in United States v. Windsor, striking down a part of the federal Defense of Marriage Act.
    Although the Windsor decision did not spell out a specific constitutional test for judging laws that treat homosexuals less favorably, Judge Dale was required to treat that ruling as having imposed a stricter test on such laws. As a trial-level judge, she had to follow a January ruling by the Ninth Circuit interpreting the Windsor decision as embracing a “heightened scrutiny” constitutional standard for such cases. (Idaho is a part of the Ninth Circuit’s region.)
    The Idaho judge used that test in finding a denial of equal protection for same-sex couples seeking to marry or to have their existing out-of-state marriages formally recognized by the state. But Judge Dale said the Idaho ban would have failed any constitutional test, because the state had not offered valid reasons to justify it.
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    Re: Judge strikes down Idaho's same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Propaganda was originally created and used by Wilson, as a way to mold public opinion through misinformation. Who is still an icon of the modern Progressive movement.
    yes, he was a tyrant, for locking people up in jail for just speaking out against WWI

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    Re: Judge strikes down Idaho's same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    CORRECT.... THEY LOVE DEMOCRACY BECAUSE AS MARX SAID.."IT IS THE ROAD TO SOCIALISM".....BUT WHEN THEY FIND THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE GOES AGAINST THEM, THEY HATE DEMOCRACY. early progressives like Wilson was a racist who fired all blacks in the federal government, segregated the military again.... they believed in killing people who severe no function in life, and the mentally ill, and called for eugenics, and a superior race of people.
    Again kinda why we have a Constitution to keep an even ship of state when 'the will of the people' threaten to capsize it.

    Now when it comes to killing folks with mental illness, 'no function in life', and feel a race is superior.... ummm I didn't realize the Nazis were democratic or for that matter socialists. Don't they hold the record for killing folks due to mental defect, sexual orientation, race and religion????

    President Wilson may have thought white folks superior but I can't recall any 'T-4' program during his administration...

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    Re: Judge strikes down Idaho's same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    1.) It does have an identifier, and one that accurately defines it: same sex marriage. That is what these laws ban, and that is what is being ruled in favor of.



    2.) stating states can regulate it but it is not a state's issue is really silly.
    3.)Have you ever bothered to ****ing read any of the rulings or arguments? At it's heart, the issue is states rights vs federal power of the constitution.
    4.) You cannot take states rights out of it.
    1.) yes thats one used just as frequently as gay marriage
    I hope i see in my life time when its just called marriage

    2.) nope its factual since there's CONTENT.
    states can NOT regulate the topic of this thread which is banning gay marriage that as been found unconstitutional, therefor my statement is 100% true and factual.

    3.) yep and have posted many here and they support me 100%, the state OVERSTEPPING its rights is what makes it unconstitutional because they had ZERO RIGHT too. "At the heart of it" it was found states had NO RIGHT. Maybe you should go back and read and understand it. Thanks for proving my point.
    4.) correct "I" cant but the rulings do just that. They remove the states, they check the states from overstepping thier rights and thats exactly what the rulings are all about.
    They keep the state attending to things that actually are states rights issues and this fact is supported by the rulings.
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    Re: Judge strikes down Idaho's same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    yes, he was a tyrant, for locking people up in jail for just speaking out against WWI
    And Roosevelt, another Progressive icon, put US Citizens in concentration camps during WWII just for being of Japanese descent. Ordered that the FBI detain or imprison thousands of US Citizens for being of German descent.

    Yep, great American Presidents... great Progressives.

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