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Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40, 145]

Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

AJiveMan said:
No. You must use FOID to obtain documents from the US gubbermint. Look it up, Google can be your friend.
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congress does NOT need to use FOIA to obtain documents from the government or anyone else, it uses their subpena power to get them.
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

shrubnose said:
Karl Rove may have some kind of brain damage, but I don't believe that Hillary Clinton has that problem.

She is only 66 years old and in good overall health, she will have no problem doing two terms in the White House and I expect to see that happen no matter what Karl Rove says or does.

Wait and see.
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I thought we all learned that lesson with Reagan who spent his entire second term napping for the camera. The presidency puts a tremendous strain on the body and the mind. She's 66 now, would be 69 by the time she sat in the chair for the first time.

In fact, she would tie Reagan as the oldest POTUS on first inauguration.
 
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mtm1963 said:
congress does NOT need to use FOIA to obtain documents from the government or anyone else, it uses their subpena power to get them.
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No ****. :doh But anyone from the outside does, you know, like journalists, reporters, individuals, etc. seeking documents and 411.
 
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AJiveMan said:
No ****. :doh But anyone from the outside does, you know, like journalists, reporters, individuals, etc. seeking documents and 411.
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this makes the point, the administration is withholding documents related to benghazi from congress.
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

mtm1963 said:
this makes the point, the administration is withholding documents related to benghazi from congress.
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Type in a Google search bar FOID, and you'll see that there's a backlog of requests for 411.

You folks do realize that any president can invoke executive privilege concerning government or presidential documents, yes?

Bush 43 signed that into law during his tenure.

Executive privilege - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

AJiveMan said:
Type in a Google search bar FOID, and you'll see that there's a backlog of requests for 411.

You folks do realize that any president can invoke executive privilege concerning government or presidential documents, yes?

Bush 43 signed that into law during his tenure.
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oh please, executive privilege did NOT originate with GWB.
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

clownboy said:
I thought we all learned that lesson with Reagan who spent his entire second term napping for the camera. The presidency puts a tremendous strain on the body and the mind. She's 66 now, would be 69 by the time she sat in the chair for the first time.
In fact, she would tie Reagan as the oldest POTUS on first inauguration.
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I'll bet that she'll provide Saturday Night Live with some great material, eh?
 
Grant said:
This from a "moderate".
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Which Carl Rove most certainly is not. He is a moron representing the worst of party and has done far more damage to it than he has ever done to help.
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

AJiveMan said:
Type in a Google search bar FOID, and you'll see that there's a backlog of requests for 411.

You folks do realize that any president can invoke executive privilege concerning government or presidential documents, yes?

Bush 43 signed that into law during his tenure.

Executive privilege - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Thanks for the link. Could you point out in the link what law was signed by GWB?
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

29A said:
So if Rove is a sack of feces, what does that make Rangel, an elected official?
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A tax cheat, a moocher, a deadbeat who doesn't pay his rent, a liar, and a lunatic.
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

Moot said:
Apparently, the only way the GOP can compete with Hillary is if she has brain damage.


I wonder how the vets suffering from brain damage feel about being exploited for the right wings political gain?
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Probably no different than all of the sick kids, people dying from cancer, diabetics, obese people, etc. feel about being exploited by the left wing for political gain.
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

Top Cat said:
Yale Law School
Wellesly College

I'd love to see your college transcripts. Oh wait.
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George W. Bush graduated from Harvard & Yale, so that makes him smarter than Hillary.
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

tres borrachos said:
George W. Bush graduated from Harvard & Yale, so that makes him smarter than Hillary.
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I remember when the Gore campaign made a big deal of impugning GWB's intelligence, until Gore's and GWB's college transcripts were published and it turned out GWB had better grades.:peace
 
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tres borrachos said:
Probably no different than all of the sick kids, people dying from cancer, diabetics, obese people, etc. feel about being exploited by the left wing for political gain.
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You make the left sound just like Jesus. lol Well, helping the sick and tired was one of his teachings, wasn't it?

Imo, the liberals help the sick for the same reason that conservatives don't help the sick....out of pure self interest. Helping the sick helps prevent epidemic outbreaks and therefore reduces the risk of liberals getting sick. For conservatives, not helping the sick helps reduce the population ensuring less competition for finite resources.


So the difference is that while the left exploit the sick for their own self interest...which in turn benefits society as a whole (aka "objectivism"), the right wing tend to exploit the dead because they can't defend or speak for themselves (aka 'revisionism")...or vote.
 
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Moot said:
You make the left sound just like Jesus. lol Well, helping the sick and tired was one of his teachings, wasn't it?

Imo, the liberals help the sick for the same reason that conservatives don't help the sick....out of pure self interest. Helping the sick helps prevent epidemic outbreaks and therefore reduces the risk of liberals getting sick. For conservatives, not helping the sick helps reduce the population ensuring less competition for finite resources.


So the difference is that while the left exploit the sick for their own self interest...which in turn benefits society as a whole (aka "objectivism"), the right wing tend to exploit the dead because they can't defend or speak for themselves (aka 'revisionism")...or vote.
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Hmmm. Why do you suppose it is that conservatives give so much more to charity than liberals?

[h=3]The Giving Gap - Reason.com[/h]

reason.com/archives/2006/12/19/the-giving-gapReason


by Katherine Mangu-Ward - in 1,187 Google+ circles
Dec 19, 2006 - So says Arthur C. Brooks in his new book Who Really Cares?: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism. Brooks, a public ...​
 
Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

shrubnose said:
I'll bet that she'll provide Saturday Night Live with some great material, eh?
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I wonder what this will do for Poehler's career? She'll be doing all those guest appearances on SNL.

But really, hadn't thought of that before - Hillary has gotten too long in the tooth for the office. And yes, I definitely said the same about McCain.
 
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Moot said:
You make the left sound just like Jesus. lol Well, helping the sick and tired was one of his teachings, wasn't it?

Imo, the liberals help the sick for the same reason that conservatives don't help the sick....out of pure self interest. Helping the sick helps prevent epidemic outbreaks and therefore reduces the risk of liberals getting sick. For conservatives, not helping the sick helps reduce the population ensuring less competition for finite resources.


So the difference is that while the left exploit the sick for their own self interest...which in turn benefits society as a whole (aka "objectivism"), the right wing tend to exploit the dead because they can't defend or speak for themselves (aka 'revisionism")...or vote.
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I have no idea what Jesus taught. I don't follow a religion.
 
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mtm1963 said:
oh please, executive privilege did NOT originate with GWB.
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Excuse my typo in the post you're responding to, I meant FOIA.
My other typo was meant to say Bush invoked exec privilege for the follwing;

Executive privilege - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just for you and some naysayers out here;

The Bush administration invoked executive privilege on six occasions.
President George W. Bush first asserted executive privilege to deny disclosure of sought details regarding former Attorney General Janet Reno,[2] the scandal involving Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) misuse of organized-crime informants James J. Bulger and Stephen Flemmi in Boston, and Justice Department deliberations about President Bill Clinton's fundraising tactics, in December 2001.[10]
Bush invoked executive privilege "in substance" in refusing to disclose the details of Vice President Dick Cheney's meetings with energy executives, which was not appealed by the GAO. In a separate Supreme Court decision in 2004, however, Justice Anthony Kennedy noted "Executive privilege is an extraordinary assertion of power 'not to be lightly invoked.' United States v. Reynolds, 345 U.S. 1, 7 (1953).
Further, on June 28, 2007, Bush invoked executive privilege in response to congressional subpoenas requesting documents from former presidential counsel Harriet Miers and former political director Sara Taylor,[11] citing that:
The reason for these distinctions rests upon a bedrock presidential prerogative: for the President to perform his constitutional duties, it is imperative that he receive candid and unfettered advice and that free and open discussions and deliberations occur among his advisors and between those advisors and others within and outside the Executive Branch.
On July 9, 2007, Bush again invoked executive privilege to block a congressional subpoena requiring the testimonies of Taylor and Miers. Furthermore, White House Counsel Fred F. Fielding refused to comply with a deadline set by the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee to explain its privilege claim, prove that the president personally invoked it, and provide logs of which documents were being withheld. On July 25, 2007, the House Judiciary Committee voted to cite Miers and White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten for contempt of Congress.[12][13]
On July 13, less than a week after claiming executive privilege for Miers and Taylor, Counsel Fielding effectively claimed the privilege once again, this time in relation to documents related to the 2004 death of Army Ranger Pat Tillman. In a letter to the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, Fielding claimed certain papers relating to discussion of the friendly-fire shooting “implicate Executive Branch confidentiality interests” and would therefore not be turned over to the committee.[14]
On August 1, 2007, Bush invoked the privilege for the fourth time in little over a month, this time rejecting a subpoena for Karl Rove. The subpoena would have required the President's Senior Advisor to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee in a probe over fired federal prosecutors. In a letter to Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy, Fielding claimed that "Mr. Rove, as an immediate presidential advisor, is immune from compelled congressional testimony about matters that arose during his tenure and that relate to his official duties in that capacity...."[15]
Leahy claimed that President Bush was not involved with the employment terminations of U.S. attorneys. Furthermore, he asserted that the president's executive privilege claims protecting Josh Bolten, and Karl Rove are illegal. The Senator demanded that Bolten, Rove, Sara Taylor, and J. Scott Jennings comply "immediately" with their subpoenas, presumably to await a further review of these matters. This development paved the way for a Senate panel vote on whether to advance the citations to the full Senate. "It is obvious that the reasons given for these firings were contrived as part of a cover up and that the stonewalling by the White House is part and parcel of that same effort", Leahy concluded about these incidents.[16][17][18][19]
As of July 17, 2008, Rove still claimed executive privilege to avoid a congressional subpoena. Rove's lawyer wrote that his client is "constitutionally immune from compelled congressional testimony."[20]
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Which amounts to obstruction of congressional inquiries, the same thing people are accusing this administration of doing.

The Obama administration has yet to invoke exec privilege for any congressional head hunt.

You should see Bush's other uses for exec privileges if this gets your dander up, he did it to protect his people, using EP six times.
 
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Re: Karl Rove: Hillary may have brain damage [W:40]

AliHajiSheik said:
Thanks for the link. Could you point out in the link what law was signed by GWB?
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My mistake, I meant to say invoked exec privilege to avoid a congressional inquiry, I apologize.
 
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