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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Okay sure, but I want this particular thread to focus on the problems that are going on over THERE and to learn more about this terror group, as opposed to our own internal political fighting, which we can go to just about any thread and get. Honestly, it gives me a splitting headache.
    We all get those headaches!

    Over there it seems the Nigerian government had a four hour warning that this kidnapping was going to take place. Nigerian Forces 'Warned About Girls' Kidnap'

    All we can do, it seems, is nothing but express concern.

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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    We all get those headaches!

    Over there it seems the Nigerian government had a four hour warning that this kidnapping was going to take place. Nigerian Forces 'Warned About Girls' Kidnap'

    All we can do, it seems, is nothing but express concern.
    I'm disgusted, but I cannot say that I'm surprised.

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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, it's a prominent religion in a lot of poor 3rd world countries, where ignorance and lack of education reign supreme, and some of these really bad imams and other so-called religious leaders are fanatics and WANT to keep the people ignorant. This is how they control the people. That is why they are SO upset about these girls going to school and being educated. Then they will have feelings of self worth. God forbid women and girls have any value outside of that which these men assign to them.
    Boko Haram doesn't mean "education is forbidden", it means "western education is forbidden". The girls weren't kidnapped simply because they were in school, they were kidnapped in a Christian school.

    Not to say that their faith isn't horribly misogynistic, simply that that shouldn't be overplayed.

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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Boko Haram doesn't mean "education is forbidden", it means "western education is forbidden". The girls weren't kidnapped simply because they were in school, they were kidnapped in a Christian school.

    Not to say that their faith isn't horribly misogynistic, simply that that shouldn't be overplayed.
    I think that's a big reason for it. Once the population is educated, it's not so easy to keep them under your thumb anymore. Ignorance plays a HUGE role in terrorism.

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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Boko Haram doesn't mean "education is forbidden", it means "western education is forbidden". The girls weren't kidnapped simply because they were in school, they were kidnapped in a Christian school.

    Not to say that their faith isn't horribly misogynistic, simply that that shouldn't be overplayed.
    On the other hand their faith does seem to play a highly important role in their actions. In fact the the only role.

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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Sure, understandably we have to pick our battles, but I would think these poor innocent girls and their grieving families are a good motivating factor.
    But what should be a higher priority of the US government, saving American girls or saving Nigerian girls?

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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    On the other hand their faith does seem to play a highly important role in their actions. In fact the the only role.
    how so? lots of Salafi, Sufi, and Christian expression in Nigeria has strong Animist elements. Boko Haram is also largely a Kanuri rebellion, and can be seen as an Islamist sheen on a tribal conflict.

    Big? Sure. Only? Not hardly.

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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I think that's a big reason for it. Once the population is educated, it's not so easy to keep them under your thumb anymore. Ignorance plays a HUGE role in terrorism.
    Actually the ranks of the Islamists tend to be rather overrepresented by Doctors and Engineers. It's not education they oppose. It's Western education.

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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    But what should be a higher priority of the US government, saving American girls or saving Nigerian girls?
    Are there American girls who need saving?

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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    how so? lots of Salafi, Sufi, and Christian expression in Nigeria has strong Animist elements. Boko Haram is also largely a Kanuri rebellion, and can be seen as an Islamist sheen on a tribal conflict.

    Big? Sure. Only? Not hardly.
    I suppose I'm judging Boko Haram by their name, their statements, and their agenda.

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