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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Unlikely. Boko Haram demonstrated itself during the last year to be an incredibly effective terror group, capable of murdering thousands and taking on standard Nigerian army echelons and winning. The prison raid alone would have discredited the article.



    for the populace, no, it wasn't. Which is why I maintain that the reason that we are actually there is because there was nothing else on the news. That being said, there is and was plenty known about them. It's simply that most folks weren't interested.
    That's not the fault of people, that's the media. They choose which stories to cover and give the most attention to.

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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

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    Yes, of course I read it and where do you find the conflict?
    Your second source claims that the first was engaging in helping the administration conduct a cover-up of Boko Haram atrocities by deliberately downplaying the threat.

    I realize that the 'tin hat' theory is possible but where do you find the actual inconsistencies?
    yeah. An argument that Abu Bakr Shekau is in regular or irregular communication with Obama and that they have decided to replace the Nigerian government because it's just too gosh-darn effective at tamping down on Islamism is ridiculous tin-hat of the Jews-riding-in-UFO's-Actually-Pulled-Off-9/11 variety. The Nigerian government is about as effective at tamping down on Islamism as the Obama administration is at reducing the size and scope of government.

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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That's not the fault of people, that's the media. They choose which stories to cover and give the most attention to.
    Ah. And the media pick stories because.....


    The information was out there the day of. If it had been "trending" it would have gotten immediate attention on the networks.

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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Unlikely. Boko Haram demonstrated itself during the last year to be an incredibly effective terror group, capable of murdering thousands and taking on standard Nigerian army echelons and winning.
    Yes, it has proven to be effective at mass murder but it has been going on for more than a year and only very recently has it been getting broad publicity.

    for the populace, no, it wasn't. Which is why I maintain that the reason that we are actually there is because there was nothing else on the news. That being said, there is and was plenty known about them. It's simply that most folks weren't interested.
    How can people be interested if it's not in the news? Now it's in the news and people are interested to the point where the first lady is even having herself tweeted saying "Bring back our girls". Why didn't she say earlier, "Don't set fire to our boys"? Maybe the news didn't reach her either.

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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Ah. And the media pick stories because.....


    The information was out there the day of. If it had been "trending" it would have gotten immediate attention on the networks.
    Because they THINK they know what people want to hear about. Sometimes, they are WRONG.

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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

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    Because they THINK they know what people want to hear about. Sometimes, they are WRONG.
    They make lots of money by usually being right. How many people are willing to change channels in order to listen to the latest atrocities out of Syria?

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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I don't think "the people" have much in the way of choices. These extremist groups wheel and deal with the government, and the government is a willing player in the game, and it's "the people" who suffer because of it IMO.
    Nothing will change if the US plays policeman for this single event even if it is claimed to be a success. The Boko Haram thugs will simply grab more hostages and get their proper ransom from the gov't next time.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    They make lots of money by usually being right. How many people are willing to change channels in order to listen to the latest atrocities out of Syria?
    They all report the same news for the most part, and it's all news that they pick and choose. Believe me, there are MANY times when I'm asking myself how can they even consider some things to be news and isn't there something more important to report going on in the world?

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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, it has proven to be effective at mass murder but it has been going on for more than a year and only very recently has it been getting broad publicity
    Yup. Thereby demonstrating the articles' arguments to be incorrect. Shekau has demonstrated that he was, in fact, exercising central authority after Yusuf's death.

    How can people be interested if it's not in the news?
    It was in the news - I've been following them for some time. It simply wasn't headline news or a major story because *yawn* all that foreign policy stuff, is like, so George Bush era, you know, and, like, if you want to cover it, why don't you just do a 30 second bit on Ukraine? Didn't you hear that GM is alive and al-qaeda is on the run? The war on terrorism is boring, man....

    Now it's in the news and people are interested to the point where the first lady is even having herself tweeted saying "Bring back our girls". Why didn't she say earlier, "Don't set fire to our boys"? Maybe the news didn't reach her either.
    you'll get no excuses for the administration from me on this.

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    Re: Kidnapped Nigerian Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Nothing will change if the US plays policeman for this single event even if it is claimed to be a success. The Boko Haram thugs will simply grab more hostages and get their proper ransom from the gov't next time.
    Sure, understandably we have to pick our battles, but I would think these poor innocent girls and their grieving families are a good motivating factor.

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