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    Texas rancher: How the federal government took my property.

    It's not just Nevada ranchers. Now Texas ranchers gearing up for a fierce fight with the federal government. The ranchers bracing for what they call a land grab. But the Bureau of Land Management insists it is categorically not expanding federal holdings. What's really going on here?

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    In light of the Bundy dust up, and on going kerfuffle, so much misinformation, and mis-characterization of just what is going on within our government out west I thought it would be useful to highlight yet another case of the BLM just changing the rules, and grabbing land.

    Now, I know that in the Bundy case it was supposedly over unpaid fees, or fines, but that could just be the excuse....Tell me what this guy did?
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    Re: Texas rancher: How the federal government took my property.

    yep before the bundy standoff some 55 ranchers in nevada alone were also ran out of town. But they did not report about those ranchers and still the rable round here claims bundy is a terrorist.

    its totallly disgusting sitting round here and listen to people spew what they hear from the boobtube and yet wont research themselves to find out what is going on.
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    Re: Texas rancher: How the federal government took my property.

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    yep before the bundy standoff some 55 ranchers in nevada alone were also ran out of town. But they did not report about those ranchers and still the rable round here claims bundy is a terrorist.

    its totallly disgusting sitting round here and listen to people spew what they hear from the boobtube and yet wont research themselves to find out what is going on.
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    Maybe you can provide the specifics of the cases so we know what exactly happened?
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    Re: Texas rancher: How the federal government took my property.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Maybe you can provide the specifics of the cases so we know what exactly happened?
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    Re: Texas rancher: How the federal government took my property.

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    Why you wont believe me anyway.
    Give me the exact reasons given by the BLM.
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    Re: Texas rancher: How the federal government took my property.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    In light of the Bundy dust up, and on going kerfuffle, so much misinformation, and mis-characterization of just what is going on within our government out west I thought it would be useful to highlight yet another case of the BLM just changing the rules, and grabbing land.

    Now, I know that in the Bundy case it was supposedly over unpaid fees, or fines, but that could just be the excuse....Tell me what this guy did?
    I do see a trend though, they are white skinned americans. Only one thing obama hates more then america and that is white americans.

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    Re: Texas rancher: How the federal government took my property.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Give me the exact reasons given by the BLM.
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    Re: Texas rancher: How the federal government took my property.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
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    Can you give me legal documents of the case?
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    Re: Texas rancher: How the federal government took my property.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Give me the exact reasons given by the BLM.
    Why The Other Ranchers Support Cliven Bundy – statement from Kena Lytle Gloeckner, Nevada rancher

    There have been a lot of people criticizing Clive Bundy because he did not pay his grazing fees for 20 years.

    The public is also probably wondering why so many other cowboys are supporting Mr. Bundy even though they paid their fees and Clive did not.

    What you people probably do not realize is that on every rancher’s grazing permit it says the following:

    “You are authorized to make grazing use of the lands, under the jurisdiction of the Bureau of Land Management and covered by this grazing permit, upon your acceptance of the terms and conditions of this grazing permit and payment of grazing fees when due.” The “mandatory” terms and conditions go on to list the allotment, the number and kind of livestock to be grazed, when the permit begins and ends, the number of active or suspended AUMs (animal units per month), etc.

    The terms and conditions also list specific requirements such as where salt or mineral supplements can be located, maximum allowable use of forage levels (40% of annual growth), etc., and include a lot more stringent policies that must be adhered to.

    Every rancher must sign this “contract” agreeing to abide by the TERMS AND CONDITIONS before he or she can make payment.

    In the early 90s, the BLM went on a frenzy and drastically cut almost every rancher’s permit because of this desert tortoise issue, even though all of us ranchers knew that cow and desert tortoise had co-existed for a hundred+ years.

    As an example, a family friend had his permit cut by 90%. For those of you who are non ranchers, that would be equated to getting your paycheck cut 90%.

    In 1976 there were approximately 52 ranching permittees in this area of Nevada.

    Presently, there are 3. Most of these people lost their livelihoods because of the actions of the BLM.

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    Re: Texas rancher: How the federal government took my property.

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    Why you wont believe me anyway.
    So the answer is no you can't.

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