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Geithner: White House Wanted Me to Lie on Sunday Shows

tres borrachos said:
The same as her husband's position and that of many other Democrats who conveniently forgot all of the comments they had made when Clinton was President.
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I dont know whats more embarrassing...their complete ignoring of every comment made by damn near every elected democrat since 1992 til around 2004, or their excuse that really...they were all just tricked by that mad ****ing GENIUS George Bush.
 
I really wish they'd get their stories straight...Either GWB was a bumbling fool that needed help tying his own shoes, or he was a master political liar that exhibited mind control over demo's to vote his way.....

Which one?
 
j-mac said:
I really wish they'd get their stories straight...Either GWB was a bumbling fool that needed help tying his own shoes, or he was a master political liar that exhibited mind control over demo's to vote his way.....

Which one?
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I think they can go with both. George Bush was a bumbling fool...and that just shows how completely ****ing moronic the other guys are. I actually kinda like that narrative. Bush needs help tying his shoes...but every elected democrat since Bill Clinton needs help wiping the drool from their chin.
 
MaggieD said:
Anyone who thinks we're told the truth, or ever will be told the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth from our government is living in wonderland.

Would I rather our government was always truthful? No, not really. I've got enough to worry about.
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The point is that this establishes this administration's penchant for making up lies to tell the Sunday morning news shows, just like they did with Susan Rice.
 
Joby said:
So Geithner released a 500 page book and this paragraph is what neocons found to take home from it.

Not his vociferously strong defense of the bailout. Not his stated admiration for the way the President handled the crisis and made the extremely unpopular, but correct, decisions. Not the part were Geithner explains how the desire to balance the budget came far too early and cost the economy 1% growth per year.

Not, you know, what the book was actually about. This ****ing paragraph. And you know, the sad part is I expect no more from such a rudderless and ideologically bankrupt movement grasping for straws to rally the base.

I can see the tea party chain emails flying, never mind that there is no there there. We always knew this guy was a liar. Deceiver. Always knew there was something about him not to like.
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Have you become so accustomed to lies being told under this administration that you no longer consider it newsworthy?
 
Conservative said:
And this is what happens when civics isn't taught in school. Democrats had access to the same information that Bush had and were on the oversight committees with access to classified information.
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You are welcome to provide proof that Congress knew "Curveball" was the primary source.

Conservative said:
Bush wasn't in office when Democrats helped pass the Iraq Liberation Act in 1998 and when many Democrats made quotes about Saddam Husseins WMD.
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Back when Cheney thought invading Iraq would be lunacy and Hannity was screeching at the top of his lungs at the very notion of the United States attacking Iraq. Funny how the roles reversed. Of course, we didn't find any WMD back then either.
 
Napoleon said:
You are welcome to provide proof that Congress knew "Curveball" was the primary source.



Back when Cheney thought invading Iraq would be lunacy and Hannity was screeching at the top of his lungs at the very notion of the United States attacking Iraq. Funny how the roles reversed. Of course, we didn't find any WMD back then either.
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Nice attempt at diversion but you didn't respond to the post. Congress has oversight responsibilities and those on the oversight committees have access to the same classified information as the President. Those are the same people who were quoted in confirming that Saddam Hussein had WMD so your outrage over Bush is misguided at best and typical liberalism at its worst.
 
Conservative said:
Nice attempt at diversion but you didn't respond to the post. Congress has oversight responsibilities and those on the oversight committees have access to the same classified information as the President. Those are the same people who were quoted in confirming that Saddam Hussein had WMD so your outrage over Bush is misguided at best and typical liberalism at its worst.
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I've never seen any proof that the source of that information was revealed to Congress. If Bush sent Colin Powell to the UN without telling him who the source was or his background, and it is clear that he did, then I have no reason to believe Congress was informed.
 
Napoleon said:
I've never seen any proof that the source of that information was revealed to Congress. If Bush sent Colin Powell to the UN without telling him who the source was or his background, and it is clear that he did, then I have no reason to believe Congress was informed.
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Then you have no idea what the Oversight Committee does or what they see yet buy what you are told. Why don't you do some research and find out what the Senate and House Oversight Committees do and what material is available to them? Stop buying what you are told and get the facts
 
Conservative said:
Then you have no idea what the Oversight Committee does or what they see yet buy what you are told. Why don't you do some research and find out what the Senate and House Oversight Committees do and what material is available to them? Stop buying what you are told and get the facts
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Like I said, you are welcome to provide proof that Congress was informed "Curveball" was the primary source. I haven't found any.
 
Paxaeon said:
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Pshaw! I don't like Obama and agree he is a liar. But none of his lies cost the US over 4,000 US lives as did the lies that got us involved in the immoral war in Iraq. Obama the "biggest liar? I think not.
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What :bs

So the dems who hate Bush because he stole the election, suddenly believed everything he had to say about WMDs that convinced them to vote for the war?

They are either:

A) Incredibly gullible and stupid

or

B) Incredibly weak and stupid

Apparently some dems just can't think for themselves.

And the really funny part is, many people believe them.
 
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Napoleon said:
Like I said, you are welcome to provide proof that Congress was informed "Curveball" was the primary source. I haven't found any.
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Who in the hell is "Curveball?" I am still waiting for you to explain why Democrats prior to Bush taking office passed the Iraq Liberation Act and why they authorized the war in October 2002?
 
Conservative said:
Who in the hell is "Curveball?" I am still waiting for you to explain why Democrats prior to Bush taking office passed the Iraq Liberation Act and why they authorized the war in October 2002?
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Pay no attention to the denier in the corner....He knows better but refuses to embrace the truth...

"On January 3, 2002, Director Tenet and other CIA officials briefed the Vice President and his staff on the limitations of covert operations in bringing down Saddam Hussein and explained that only a military operation and invasion would succeed. The CIA then gave the same briefing to the President." (page 452)
What the senators didn't say is that Woodward went on (emphasis added):
"With Tenet's approval, Saul, Deputy Director John E. McLaughlin and James L. Pavitt, the deputy director for operations, worked on a new Top Secret intelligence order for regime change in Iraq that Bush signed on Feb. 16, 2002. It directed the CIA to support the U.S. military in overthrowing Hussein and granted authority to support opposition groups and conduct sabotage operations inside Iraq.

"The cost was set at $200 million a year for two years. The leaders of the Senate and House intelligence committees were informed secretly."
Which means that early in 2002 - over a year before the Iraq war began - Congressional intelligence leaders knew the CIA and the US military intended to overthrow Saddam.

Those leaders? Senate Intelligence chairman, Democrat Bob Graham, Vice-Chairman, Republican Richard Shelby; House Intelligence Chairman, Republican Porter Goss; Ranking Member, Democrat Nancy Pelosi.

Articles: Iraq and Curve Ball Carl
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The only other seemingly negative remark Geithner makes about the White House is about President Obama, whom he says, 'Sometimes I thought he wore his frustration too openly.'

'He harbored the overly optimistic belief that since his motives and values were good, since his team was thoughtful and well-intentioned, we deserved to be perceived that way,' Geithner says in the book, according to a review in the New York Times.
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What's that old saying about the road to Hell?

White House wanted Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner to play politics with Social Security spending to keep its base happy | Mail Online
 
FoxNews cohost, Dana Perino doesn't believe Geitner was told to lie....


"...The Five, co-host Dana Perino, who previously served as press secretary under President George W. Bush, responded to allegations from her co-hosts that the White House had asked Geithner to lie. Perino explained that the way Geithner was asked to to discuss Social Security made sense "from a communications standpoint":


PERINO: I can actually understand the Geithner thing. It's like saying, "Hey, can you not try to say this point about Social Security?" I don't think that is asking Geithner to specifically lie. I can understand from a communications standpoint you're asking the principle and the policy person, "How far can you go to say X,Y, or Z?"
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Timothy Geitner says he wasn't told to lie......


Fox News also quoted from "a source close to Geithner" who pointed out that he "does not believe he was encouraged to go out and mislead the public on the Sunday shows":

After the anecdote began to generate attention on Monday, a source close to Geithner clarified to Fox News that the former secretary "does not believe he was encouraged to go out and mislead the public on the Sunday shows."

The source said all the former secretary was trying to get across was that Pfeiffer wanted him to "send a signal" to liberals about the president's commitment to not allowing major cuts to Social Security.
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Fox's Dana Perino Debunks Right-Wing Conspiracy On Geithner's New Book | Blog | Media Matters for America


Liars accusing other people of lying. What will conservatives think of next?
 
Moot said:
FoxNews cohost, Dana Perino doesn't believe Geitner was told to lie....Timothy Geitner says he wasn't told to lie......Liars accusing other people of lying. What will conservatives think of next?
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It's encouraging to see that more leftists are finally turning to Fox News to get their information.
 
votemout said:
Geithner: White House Wanted Me to Lie on Sunday Shows | The Weekly Standard

Timothy Geithner, the former secretary of the Treasury Department, says the White House wanted him to lie in scheduled appearances on the Sunday TV talk shows. As Geithner writes in his new memoir:

“I remember during one Roosevelt Room prep session before I appeared on the Sunday shows, I objected when Dan Pfeiffer wanted me to say Social Security didn’t contribute to the deficit. It wasn’t a main driver of our future deficits, but it did contribute. Pfeiffer said the line was a ‘dog whistle’ to the left, a phrase I had never heard before. He had to explain that the phrase was code to the Democratic base, signaling that we intended to protect Social Security.”

Of course, Geithner would not have been the only official from the White House to have misled the American people on the Sunday talk shows. Susan Rice famously came under fire for blaming a terrorist attack on a YouTube video in appearances on the shows.




LOOKs like that is all the admin knows how to do is TELL BIG FAT LIES.
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Just another set of lies from the "most transparent administration ever".

 
Conservative said:
Who in the hell is "Curveball?"
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I am amazed that anyone would ask that question. Enjoy.

Conservative said:
I am still waiting for you to explain why Democrats prior to Bush taking office passed the Iraq Liberation Act....
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The Iraq Liberation Act was not authorization for military action against Iraq. In fact, it specifically says that in Section 8. It authorized humanitarian assistance, funding of Saddam's political opposition, and provision of military training materials to rebel groups. You are trying to compare apples with oranges.

Conservative said:
...and why they authorized the war in October 2002?
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The majority of Democrats voted against it, but those who didn't were acting on bad information fed to them by the Bush Administration.
 
Grant said:
Democrats are easily fooled.
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Seems to me that Republicans are fooled much easier than Democrats. 57% of the Democrats saw through the bs pumped out by the topiary-in-chief vs. 2% of Republicans.
 
Moot said:
Well, if FoxNews says it then it must be true. Isn't that what you believe?
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Stop dancing. If you think Fox News is disreputable, and then cite it to make your claim (lazy, requiring no effort to actually discredit the data provided by ICE) what does that mean you believe?

You tell me-I will go with it once you have figured out your argument.
 
Napoleon said:
Seems to me that Republicans are fooled much easier than Democrats. 57% of the Democrats saw through the bs pumped out by the topiary-in-chief vs. 2% of Republicans.
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Yes, the Democrats never believed there were WMD in Iraq until George Bush came along.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1063273932 said:
What :bs So the dems who hate Bush because he stole the election, suddenly believed everything he had to say about WMDs that convinced them to vote for the war? They are either: A) Incredibly gullible and stupid or B) Incredibly weak and stupid Apparently some dems just can't think for themselves.And the really funny part is, many people believe them.
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Thank you for your flawed opinion. While it makes absolutely no sense to me, (I voted for Obama in 2008 but a third party in 2012) I personally believe both parties are corporately owned and once you strip off the fake veneer, they are both the same; Puppets to the corporate dollar.

You go right ahead pretending there is some ideological difference between when in fact both the Democrats and Republicans are beholden to the same deity: The god of Money.
 
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